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  • gatorbone
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 22

    #1

    Shoulder problems

    I bought some once fired .223 brass. And after trimming to length, started sizing them. Well......,I (wrongly so), subscribe to the old adage, if a liitle is goo, a lot is better. I am using cable pulling lube as case lube and it is so easy to get too much. The upshot is there are several cases wit small detents in the shoulder. My question is, is it safe to load and fire these cases. Minimum loads of course.Any responses to this old dummy will certainly be appreciated.
  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #2
    Shoulder dents or oil dents as I call them hasn't seemed to hurt any of my reloads. Do check the vent hole in your die. If it's stoped up you'll get dents in almost every case. Also wash out you dies every so often and apply a little (LITTLE) lub to the inside of the decap die. As a after thought on my part, your trimming should be performed after sizing. I trim mine to min length after sizing. Good luck. If you have any other questions almost everybody will answer then.
    Last edited by joem; 08-19-2015, 07:13.

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    • DaveL
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 180

      #3
      I second what joem said. I also think you would be better off using any brand of real case lube. If I remember right, cable lube is more like grease which makes it too thick and could well be the contributing factor for your dents. In any case, your using to much lube.
      HTH
      DaveL

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      • Major Tom
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 6181

        #4
        Use another lube

        I use Imperial lube exclusively.

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        • Sunray
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3251

          #5
          Excess lube dents won't hurt anything. Does sound like cable pulling lube(pulled miles of Ethernet cable without any such thing myself) is too much.
          Lubing cases shouldn't need anything fancy. Just a pad with a light coat of lube(partial to RCBS lube myself) on it. Once down and back and you're done.
          Spelling and grammar count!

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          • PhillipM
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5937

            #6
            I dump mine in a Folgers can and shoot a dab of Pam cooking spray and then shake them up.
            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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            • gatorbone
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 22

              #7
              Many thanks to all for the info and advice. Pretty sure I'll go to standard case lube from now on.

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              • joem
                Senior Member, Deceased
                • Aug 2009
                • 11835

                #8
                I used to use Dillon's case lube. I now make my own out of "fluid film' and alcohol solvent. I think that is close to what dillon sells.

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                • tmark
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1900

                  #9
                  I occasionally get shoulder dents in my 06 brass. The dents "shoot out" just fine after firing them. No problems.

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                  • psteinmayer
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1527

                    #10
                    I've been using Hornady One Shot for years and it works great! Best of all, it doesn't affect powder or primers like an oil based lube does, so there is no worries of problems there either. I've also used PAM cooking spray in a pinch. Just remember to really clean your cases afterward (I dumped them in a sink full of dish soap, then rinsed and let air dry... worked fine).
                    "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                    • mikld
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 69

                      #11
                      I'm one of those fellers that have had no problems shooting out the occasional "lube dent". I haven't found "dedicated case lube" to be really necessary and I have successfully use a number of products. Cable pulling lube is a water soluble, thin paste (or at least the one used by a very large Power Department for a very large west coast city is) and looks and works just like Lee's case lube. I have used solid lanoline, rubbed on my fingers then on the case, and I have diluted some lanoline in alcohol. Both work quite well. I have used several other products not necessarily firearm related to successfully lube size some brass from Mink Oil Boot dressing to Pam, Chapstick, Bag Balm and once even tried STP. All work to some extent, some better than others and most just as good as commercial, "dedicated" case lube and some clean up easily and some are a real pain to get off the cases.
                      Last edited by mikld; 08-20-2015, 01:18.

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                      • BlitzKrieg
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 573

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Major Tom
                        I use Imperial lube exclusively.
                        100% great solution. This works..no alibi. Chase PAM, STP, and any spray lube out there
                        and then, when you are finally finished chasing rainbows, just buy a tin of Imperial and
                        your agony is over.
                        Last edited by BlitzKrieg; 08-21-2015, 11:36.

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                        • gatorbone
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 22

                          #13
                          Again, thanx to all for your insight.

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                          • Matt Anthony
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 404

                            #14
                            You should trim after you size your brass. The sizing die changes the length.
                            Matt
                            "When you tax away the rewards of effort, you destroy the motivation to achieve"

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                            • Griff Murphey
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 3708

                              #15
                              I've had trouble with Pam killing primers. Don't recommend it myself. I'm sure if you are real careful it can be made to work. I wasn't.

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