Aged Primers ???

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  • Weez556
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 31

    #1

    Aged Primers ???

    Have any you guys ever had any problems using older primers ? I have several I bought back in the 90's but they have always been stored in the house with heat and A/C . Have you ever used any that have been stored and notice any problems ??? Thanks
  • Allen
    Moderator
    • Sep 2009
    • 10583

    #2
    I've never had any problems using primers that were kept dry even thought they were 30+ years old. I have shot ammo that was 80 years old w/o a misfire. Load up a small batch to test if in doubt or just seat the primer in an empty case and test fire.

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    • joem
      Senior Member, Deceased
      • Aug 2009
      • 11835

      #3
      They should be fine. You stored them correctly.

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      • Tuna
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2686

        #4
        I have had primers from the early 70's (Alcan) and primers from 1950 both Winchester and Remington and all have shot fine.
        If primers are kept cool and dry they will last for decades.

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        • Sunray
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3251

          #5
          Primers, ammo and old guys. Store us right and we just keep on going. snicker.
          Spelling and grammar count!

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          • slamfire
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 221

            #6
            I asked a Naval Insensitive Munitions expert the lifetime of primers, and he said "infinite". Well, infinity is a very long time, but in comparison to the lifetime of gunpowder, primer lifetime is not something that is tracked or worried about. The older corrosive primers would dud out in time, newer lead styphnate priming compounds, I have no idea the shelf life. I have shot 40 year old, maybe 50 year old lead styphnate primers and they worked fine.

            I do believe heat is very bad for primers, and so is humidity. Primer compound is made wet and when it dries out it is dangerous. I assume therefore it will suck up water. Sealant is on the top of the primer cake so something that dissolves it would expose the primer cake to water.

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            • joem
              Senior Member, Deceased
              • Aug 2009
              • 11835

              #7
              I have ammo that is over 70 years old and it will fire with no problems. I'd say primers will last a very long time.

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              • Dan Shapiro
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 5864

                #8
                I have a can of primers made in 1866. They still work.
                "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #9
                  I have a bunch of WW II M2 ball. Goes bang every time.

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                  • tmark
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1900

                    #10
                    Used primer stored for 46 years as well as reloads stored for about 20 years. Never had a problem with either going bang.

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                    • PhillipM
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5937

                      #11
                      Originally posted by slamfire
                      I asked a Naval Insensitive Munitions expert the lifetime of primers, and he said "infinite". Well, infinity is a very long time, but in comparison to the lifetime of gunpowder, primer lifetime is not something that is tracked or worried about. The older corrosive primers would dud out in time, newer lead styphnate priming compounds, I have no idea the shelf life. I have shot 40 year old, maybe 50 year old lead styphnate primers and they worked fine.

                      I do believe heat is very bad for primers, and so is humidity. Primer compound is made wet and when it dries out it is dangerous. I assume therefore it will suck up water. Sealant is on the top of the primer cake so something that dissolves it would expose the primer cake to water.
                      According to Hatcher's Notebook, the reason non corrosive primers were not used earlier is because their shelf life was much shorter than the *edited* corrosive. I guess they finally got the formula right.
                      Last edited by PhillipM; 01-26-2016, 11:52.
                      Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                      "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                      • Parashooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 819

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PhillipM
                        . . . the reason non corrosive primers were not used earlier is because their shelf life was much shorter than the non corrosive. . .
                        You might want to read that statement carefully and edit so it makes sense. (Hint - remove the 2d "non".)

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                        • PhillipM
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5937

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Parashooter
                          You might want to read that statement carefully and edit so it makes sense. (Hint - remove the 2d "non".)
                          Whoops! I need to proofread before posting!
                          Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                          "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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