Blue Dot in .357 Mag.

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Blue Dot in .357 Mag.

    Since Alliant 2400 powder is simply not available around here, I have been diddling with Alliant Blue Dot and Hodgdon 110

    Ponder this: Why are the start/maximum loads for pistols bigger than than for rifles?

    From the latest Sierra manual:

    .357 pistol loads for Blue dot behind 158 gr. JSP. Start- 11.6 Max. 12.6

    .357 rifle loads for Blue dot behind 158 gr. JSP. Start- 10.0 Max. 11.2
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    Hornady loads (from Loadbooks)

    .357 pistol loads for H-110 behind HP-XTP 158 gr. Start- 12.7 Max* 15.6

    .357 rifle loads for H-110 behind HP-XTP 158 gr. Start- 8.6 Max* 15.5

    *Note 4.1gr. difference in starting loads
    Last edited by RED; 01-05-2016, 02:55.
  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #2
    Only thing that comes to mind would be barrel length that might build more pressure. I've been using AA # 9 lately as I have plenty.

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    • PhillipM
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5937

      #3
      I'm just guessing, but if the handgun is a revolver it has a much bigger jump to the rifling and has the barrel to cylinder gap to reduce pressure.
      Phillip McGregor (OFC)
      "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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      • Sunray
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3251

        #4
        "...Ponder this:..." the real question is why does Hodgdon say to use magnum primers for H110 in a .357, but not a .30 Carbine. snicker.
        Spelling and grammar count!

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        • Matt Anthony
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 404

          #5
          Powder has a longer burn time in the rifle.
          Mattg hi
          "When you tax away the rewards of effort, you destroy the motivation to achieve"

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          • emmagee1917
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1492

            #6
            Magnum pistol vs. non-magnum rifle . Different critters .
            Chris

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            • Tuna
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2686

              #7
              And the primers are about the same as to there ability to shatter and ignite the powder. Small magnum pistol is the same as a small rifle in ability to ignite powder in a small case like a 30 carbine or say a .22 Hornet.

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                After pondering it... Is it possible that a considerable amount of the powder in a pistol, exits the barrel and is not burned but does burn in the longer rifle barrel. Which begs the question, if it don't burn, why use it to start with?

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                • Litt'le Lee
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 653

                  #9
                  you may find that a modern pistol will have a higher pressure rating than a lever gun

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                  • emmagee1917
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1492

                    #10
                    Burning rate is for the time it takes for the complete granule to burn . If you get , say , an 80% burn , well , 80% of a lot is much greater than 80% of a little .
                    Chris

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