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  • alfajim
    Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 60

    #1

    Trapdoor officers model

    Just putting out feelers for pictures from any one that has an original officers model as I have all the hard parts to build a replica and need good pictures of the engraving on the parts.
    I really like the looks of them in the new 5th edition of the Joe Poyer's book but the pictures aren't large enough for clarity to use as patterns.

    This is a down the road project after I get finished with the shooter built around the 1884 new barrel I lucked out on off E bay got the receiver off it and weld repairs done now need to do the machine work will have to make holding collers, jigs for the lathe then touch up the bluing and do finishing up the preping of all the other parts and the stock.

    I will end up with three of the things when done, a 1879 heirloom, the 1886 shooter and a officers model using various year parts.

    Jim
  • AZshooter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 261

    #2
    The NRA Museums are home to the finest firearms collection in the world. The National Firearms Museum, at the NRA Headquarters in Fairfax, Virginia, details and examines the nearly 700-year history of firearms with a special emphasis on firearms, freedom, and the American experience. The National Sporting Arms Museum, at the Bass Pro Shops in Springfield, Missouri, at explores and exhibits the historical development of hunting arms in America from the earliest explorers to modern day, with a focus on hunting, conservation, and freedom.


    This will give you a good representation of the Officer's Model engravings. Many of the pictures are resizable.

    Also:
    Last edited by AZshooter; 05-05-2017, 08:50.

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      I was going to offer my humble example, but those two will serve just fine. Of the two, I'd prefer the NRA rifle - even though it has a service hammer - over Julia's, which is just TOO nice. I'd be afraid to even touch such a specimen!

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      • alfajim
        Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 60

        #4
        Originally posted by AZshooter
        http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/...oor-rifle.aspx

        This will give you a good representation of the Officer's Model engravings. Many of the pictures are resizable.

        Also:
        http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-1485...r-rifle-47526/
        Thanks for the links downloaded the picts from both sites great pictures will be very helpful when the time comes to do the works.

        Jim

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        • Mark Daiute
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 654

          #5
          dick, do you have the photosa sent you a couple of years ago?
          "A man with a tractor and a chain saw has no excuses, nor does he need any"
          Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.

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          • Dick Hosmer
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5993

            #6
            Originally posted by Mark Daiute
            dick, do you have the photosa sent you a couple of years ago?
            I'm sure I do, but "where" is anyone's guess!

            I actually could use a couple of OM pics for the book - any one who wants to help would be welcome, and would of course receive credit.

            1. First type tang sight, the Sharps one, with "L" profile leaf (side view clearly showing that feature)
            2. Third type of tang sight, with the spring covering the mounting screws, as on the H&R replica
            3. Checkered pistol grip, preferably from side.
            4. Side view of long, "square" forearm tip on the 100 type 3 rifles, all cartouched SWP/1885

            Pics need to have a VERY light backgrond with no texture (no folded Turkish towels) and need to be well-focused and well lit. Color is OK, I can convert to B&W, as well as crop, resize, sharpen, change contrast, etc. The higher the resolution the better, of course.

            Thanks. I am ACTIVELY working on the book and hope to have it out in time for Christmas.
            Last edited by Dick Hosmer; 05-15-2017, 02:47.

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #7
              What subjects will the book be covering by chapter?
              Last edited by Fred; 05-15-2017, 04:14.

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              • Dick Hosmer
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 5993

                #8
                Here you go. Page numbers are totally meaningless 'placeholders' at this time - book should be close to 300 pages after insertion of pictures, presently in progress.


                "More .45-70 Rifles, The Uncommon, The Scarce, And The Rare - 1873-1893"
                Copyright 2017, R. A. Hosmer

                (Preliminary) Table of Contents:

                Part One: Allin System (‘Trapdoor’) Arms:

                Chapter 1 Model 1873 Carbines of the ‘Custer period’ ...................... 9
                Chapter 2 Model 1873 Sporting Rifles .............…........................... 23
                Chapter 3 Model 1873 Rifle with Metcalfe Device ........................... 28
                Chapter 4 Model 1875 Officer’s Rifles ........................................... 34
                Chapter 5 Model 1880 Ramrod Bayonet Rifle ................................. 46
                Chapter 6 Model 1881 Long-Range Rifles ....................................... 54
                Chapter 7 Model 1881 Marksman’s Rifle ......................................... 65
                Chapter 8 Model 1882 Short Rifles (with 28” Barrel) …........…........... 73
                Chapter 9 Model 1884 Ramrod Bayonet Rifle ................................. 82
                Chapter 10 Model 1886 "XC" Carbine (24” Barrel) ..….........…............ 90
                Chapter 11 Model 1888 Rifle, with Positive Cam ............................... 96
                Chapter 12 The .30 Caliber “Ammunition Test” Rifles ....................... 107
                Chapter 13 Model 1906 Fencing Muskets ....….................................. 115
                Chapter 14 Model 1881 20ga. “Forager” Shotgun ............................ 121
                Chapter 15 ‘Fraudulent’ Springfields ............................................... 126
                Chapter 16 ‘One of a kind’ Arms ...….............................................. . 132

                Part Two: Contemporary Arms Produced at Springfield:

                Chapter 17 Model 1875 Rifle (Lee ‘Vertical Breech’) ......................... 137
                Chapter 18 Model 1879/1880 Rifles & Carbines (Hotchkiss) .............. 142
                Chapter 19 Model 1882 Rifle (Chaffee-Reece) .................................. 156

                Part Three: Miscellaneous

                Appendix “A”: Serial number ranges ................................................. 165
                Appendix “B”: Finishes .................................................. ................. 167
                Appendix “C”: Dimensions .................................................. ............ 170
                Glossary .................................................. ..................................... 173
                Bibliography .................................................. ................................ 183

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                • Dan Shapiro
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5864

                  #9
                  Lookiing forward to the book.
                  "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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                  • Fred
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4977

                    #10
                    Wow! OK, I'm getting that one. Thanks Dick!!!

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