Bought my first Trapdoor today!

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  • DocCasualty
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 99

    #1

    Bought my first Trapdoor today!

    My club's Spring funshow was this weekend and I picked up this M1873 TD. SN 238579 which I believe means if was made in 1883, which is also the year of the stamped cartouche. The bore is shiny with good rifling and no rust or pitting anywhere on the gun. Most of the finish is present and other then some scuffs and dings on the stock, the wood looks great. I believe that all parts are present and correct. I also believe the sling which was included is an original, though it is missing both keepers. I think I did okay on price too.

    I'm curious if the experts here have any comments on the rifle and its correctness. I have a lot to learn about TDs and wasn't out to buy one today but couldn't pass it up. I almost never see these around here. There was another '73 rifle but that one was missing swivels and a ramrod and its bore looked like a sewer pipe compared to this one and overall condition was so-so. There was also a carbine, though I'm not sure if it was a true carbine, as the front sight had obviously been reworked. It too was in shootable condition but nowhere near the very good to excellent condition of this one.

    Is the front band on backwards here? I think the stacking swivel should be in front, correct? Both bands have the "U" on the left side of the rifle, does that matter on the rear band? I was trying to learn a little about TD rear sights, is this one a Model 1879 sight?



















    Last edited by DocCasualty; 05-15-2013, 04:39. Reason: restore photo
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  • DocCasualty
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    • Mar 2010
    • 99

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      Nice-looking rifle!

      As to the bands, well, they are both backwards - the "U" belongs on the right side. :-)

      And, yes, it does matter - they are slightly tapered and actually fit better when correctly oriented. That is a Model 1879 sight, and is correct for the date/serial number.

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      • DocCasualty
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 99

        #4
        Thanks for the info, Dick. I probably should have gone into this with more information but am glad to hear it is what I thought I was getting. I almost walked away from the table but it kept calling my name!
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        • ebeeby
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 687

          #5
          That is a nice looking rifle, I second Dick. Nice rear sight with slotless screws. The way to remember on the "U"'s is that the ends point "UP" so the luck doesn't run out.
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          • steved66
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 35

            #6
            Nice pickup! Funny how that happens. Go to a gun show and come home with something unexpected. I'm sure you are going to enjoy shooting that fine rifle.

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            • gtodan
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 135

              #7
              Nice rifle. Still some case color. Is that a stock repair under the trigger assy?

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              • DocCasualty
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 99

                #8
                Originally posted by gtodan
                Nice rifle. Still some case color. Is that a stock repair under the trigger assy?
                I'm not sure what is going on there. I don't see any evidence of any sort of repair though. Perhaps when I disassemble it I'll gain some further info. I think it just represents some stock that was shaved or chipped off, though I really don't know.

                I really appreciate the positive comments. I thought it was a nice looking example myself and think I made a good deal with this one.
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                • DRAGONFLYDF
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1244

                  #9
                  be warned, Trapdoors multiply, I bought one, then another a month later.........
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                  • Mark Daiute
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 654

                    #10
                    If you disassembel the rifle don't take out the trigger guard. You are almost 100% assured to take wood out with it. Ask me how I know.....

                    Oops, I went back and looked at the photo... Looks like someone already took it out! I rest my case. ;^)

                    Nice rifle. I wish it was mine.
                    Last edited by Mark Daiute; 04-15-2013, 04:35.
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                    Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.

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                    • DocCasualty
                      Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 99

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mark Daiute
                      If you disassembel the rifle don't take out the trigger guard. You are almost 100% assured to take wood out with it. Ask me how I know.....

                      Oops, I went back and looked at the photo... Looks like someone already took it out! I rest my case. ;^)

                      Nice rifle. I wish it was mine.
                      Thanks for the explanation and the warning. I don't tend to monkey with any more disassembly than I have to with firearms. I suppose I will correct those bands though. LOL

                      BTW, I paid $800 for the rifle and sling. From what I can tell from pictures on Al Frasca's sight and GB, I think I did okay.
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                      • Mark Daiute
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 654

                        #12
                        Last I knew, original slings were going for a buck-thirty. Good for you.
                        "A man with a tractor and a chain saw has no excuses, nor does he need any"
                        Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.

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                        • John Sukey
                          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12224

                          #13
                          Prices sure have changed. I bought my fiorst trapdoor for $45. Of course that was over 50 years ago

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                          • DocCasualty
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 99

                            #14
                            According to the inflation calculator, $45 in 1963 equals $350 today. I think we now add on to that the increased collectibility of firearms like these, along with the laws of supply and demand and voila . . . I want to cry every time I see a chopped up Krag but when they were cheap, who would have thought twice?

                            What surprises me more is how some other firearms prices have skyrocketed recently. At this same gun show Chinese SKSs were going for $400, something I paid $125 for not that long ago. I've read online that some are paying $500 for them and happy to find them at that price.
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                            • 70ish
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                              • Jan 2011
                              • 98

                              #15
                              I bought my first one almost 60 years ago for $15 and my first '61 for $20. But then I was a caddy in the summers for .35 an hour. Prices now are larger, but the bruise in the wallet is still about the same.

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