Any comments on the originality of RIA auction officers model?

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  • guncrank
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 5

    #1

    Any comments on the originality of RIA auction officers model?

    I see this at the RIA auction coming up this week. https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1042/6144 It looks original but I question the front sight (no pin on it), the lack of a witness mark on the receiver and the engraving. It has seen a lot of use and maybe abuse?
  • Tom Trevor
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 566

    #2
    Very well worn rifle. Very rare tang sight but looks like the eye cup is off an H-R officers rifle beech sight is not clear enough to tell if its an original of one made by Lyman. I suppose its worth 5-6 if you just want an example. Its best to wait for a better one to come along.OFFICERS RIFLES.jpg

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10580

      #3
      Nice display YOU have.

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      • Dick Hosmer
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5993

        #4
        M1875 Officers OA copy.jpgI think it's real, but not a particularly primo specimen. Though, some of us could never afford five-figures for a nice one. Mine has a lot more wear than that one, but the same very rare SA-designed one-screw tang sight. I always drool over Tom's, who was kind enough, many years ago, to provide me with a Beach front sight.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11266

          #5
          wondering where they got that one from,

          I spoke to a gent a couple months ago that was enquiring about value etc for a well used example a widow he knew had,

          this did not appear to be a dude trying to scam a widow, I got the impression it was a friend of the family looking to get the most possible for the widow and family,
          anyhoo, I did not get to see it, (only got a rather vague verbal description)
          however that vague description fits this rifle,,,,,

          he mentioned auction houses as a possible option, and I concurred and suggested he shop around and negotiate rates ,

          maybe the same, maybe not,



          oddly enough, and slightly off topic, I have seen more for sale in the past 4 yrs or so than I have in the past 20,
          and was offered one just a couple weeks ago that I need to go look at

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10580

            #6
            Originally posted by lyman
            oddly enough, and slightly off topic, I have seen more for sale in the past 4 yrs or so than I have in the past 20,
            and was offered one just a couple weeks ago that I need to go look at
            I wonder if this is a result of so many of us realizing we need to thin our herds or the early signs of the upcoming recession.

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            • Dick Hosmer
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 5993

              #7
              Both of those, but also just the aging of the trapdoor enthusiasts in general. I need to thin down but am torn between selling the good stuff (because it will bring the money) and keeping the chaff just to have a couple - or vice versa. One thing for sure, anything you sell you will NEVER be able to reacquire. Well, that's not always true - I just had a miraculous event with a a very nice (and previously-owned by me) 1895 Krag carbine, in which I spent $xxxx to return to previous status of having just $90 (1972) in it! I could sell it again, for big bucks, but Karma says "no". That one's a keeper!
              Last edited by Dick Hosmer; 02-14-2023, 11:48.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10580

                #8
                I remember the story on your Krag. You need to be buried with that one.

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                • Tom Trevor
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 566

                  #9
                  Sold today for 8813.00. More than I thought it would bring. All you need in an auction is two bidders who want something.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11266

                    #10
                    Dick ,

                    you may have seen or have corresponded with the owner of the OM I referenced,

                    I also had a conversation with someone else you may know regarding selling some of his collection,

                    I'll shoot you an email when I get a chance

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                    • Dick Hosmer
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5993

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      Dick ,

                      you may have seen or have corresponded with the owner of the OM I referenced,

                      I also had a conversation with someone else you may know regarding selling some of his collection,

                      I'll shoot you an email when I get a chance
                      OK, will look forward to it.

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                      • Kragrifle
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1161

                        #12
                        Took part in the recent Rock Island auction and was able to buy an early Hoffer Thompson 1903 for what I hope was a very reasonable price. Also watched some of the auction online and was impressed that priced seemed a bit subdued. Not sure if it?s the economy (doubt), or the fear of government confiscation (maybe), or just a good time to buy.

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