98,xxx Trapdoor with an 1889 Cartouche?

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  • PRC148
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 66

    #1

    98,xxx Trapdoor with an 1889 Cartouche?

    I'm looking at a nice Trapdoor rifle with the following parts (sorry, my books aren't handy right now):
    98,xxxx s/n - 1878 assembly
    grooved trigger with check pad
    SWP 1889 cartouch in correct place
    1884 long range sight
    Ramrod, no rod bayonet
    1884 Breech block
    all wear patterns match, stock is near mint and the block/tang have strong flashes of case hardening.

    Mr. Frasca once stated that remaining parts were assembled to produce some 1888 rod bayonet rifles but I've yet to see any documentation supporting the assembly into an 1884.

    Could this be an arsenal rebuild? A parts gun built and sold commercially? or a restoration?
    Any help would be appreciated.
    "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the sheltered shall never know."
  • Tom Trevor
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 566

    #2
    I believe they were done the way you saw the rifle, a friend bought a minty 1889 dated rifle some years ago and its serial number was in the 101000 range and we thought it odd but condition was even throughout.

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      Any receiver above 96300 would have been considered physically acceptable for use on a "late-model" rifle, by the SA shops.

      That is certainly NOT "tidy" for those of us - myself included - who are wont to obsess over such irregularities, but we have to stand in their shoes. Such an arm might be slightly less desirable to a purist, but that certainly doesn't automatically make it "wrong".

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      • PRC148
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 66

        #4
        Thank you for the insight. No boogered up screws or mismatched wear patterns. An overall beautiful rifle. I'll see if I can get an SRS check on the S/N.
        "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the sheltered shall never know."

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        • Dick Hosmer
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 5993

          #5
          Due to the small number of surviving records, the odds are not good, but post the number and I'll look it up for you.

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          • PRC148
            Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 66

            #6
            Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
            Due to the small number of surviving records, the odds are not good, but post the number and I'll look it up for you.
            PM Sent
            "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the sheltered shall never know."

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            • Dick Hosmer
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 5993

              #7
              Received. Sorry, no cigar - yours falls between 98767 (donated to US Navy in 1943) and 98826 (simply noted as an 84R, surely due to sight installed at time of logging).

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