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  • StockDoc
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 1189

    #16
    Sorry Rick, you have me confused with some one else, why would I follow some one that gives marginal advice.

    Oh well, keep thinking that way. By the way if you Google Stockdoc you will find about 20 others that use the name. Besides if it was your name why was it available when I signed up 4 weeks ago.

    You apparently have a mental problem that you should have looked into. You even accused Paladin on the first post I answered of following you.

    Sheesh, some people.
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    • RCS
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2180

      #17
      stock doc - it seems that you just want to be an irritant poster.

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      • StockDoc
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1189

        #18
        RCS seems the other way around to me, But if you want to think that it okay, free country.

        How did you ever come up with that conclusion from this post?

        "You will devalue that rifle by trying to repair it. Just stop the deterioration of the stock. Oil it carefully. If you want to shoot it, if it is shootable, that is. Put a new stock on it. The Burned area should stay on the stock, that is part of its history. "

        Wow talk about trying to read between the lines
        Last edited by StockDoc; 06-28-2014, 06:22.
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        • RCS
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2180

          #19
          As I stated and it seems you have a problem reading - you are just a irritant poster attempting to force your ideas on the other posters. Let it alone ! things will work out without your advice

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          • StockDoc
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 1189

            #20
            Not trying to force anything on anyone, like some posers. Just trying to share 40 yrs or wood working, and info that I learned from Americas foremost wood worker. you have a great evening RCS or is it Rick B
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            • Rick B
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 717

              #21
              Here is the Odd Coincidence. Paledin601 was Banned from CMP for constantly putting doubt in everything I said. He was banned about 5 weeks ago and had an issues with my name of Stock Doc also. Sure seems suspicious all around. You are a furniture refinisher not a Gun Stock worker and are against working on stocks so why the name???

              If you do a search of my name and Stock Doc it comes up more than anyone out there and best part is I had the name given to me on the forums long before the other had theirs from all we seen. Yes I did not invent the name. Yes anyone can use it if I didn't copyright it as Stock Brokers use the name also. But it is all to odd the coincidences of your behavior and name when not tied to Stock work in anyway. Just saying.

              My methods have worked for many years and glues and products change. The Military has repaired stocks longer than I have thought of it and made changes in their Finishes, stains and glues so no one is perfect. Springfield Armory puts Bees Wax on all their stocks and they are a museum. No one put that on during military times. I find it to be an issue for sure and can go over the many including not able to be removed if needed or that it locks anything in and the stocks will crack overtime as they cannot breath. So your demand for it one way isn't panning out well for collectors and shooters. I have worked on some rare stuff and I mean eve a 1st made rifle that a collector blew apart by accident. Saving some of these is more important to many. Just saying. Rick B

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              • Dick Hosmer
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 5993

                #22
                Originally posted by Rick B
                Dick and original Poster, this guy follows me around trying to bash what ever I say just so you understand. He even took my Moniker of Stock Doc when he is new here. Should be enough for suspicion. Was named Stock Doc 20 years ago for all the super repairs I did to save thousands of stocks. I had a contract way back to repair many stocks found in that Barn I cleaned out and have all happy customers from saving their wood. Shame someone will come in and try to stop good honest help in order to knock a good guy down.

                Happy to see you are saving the stock as you want to with your own property. . Rick B
                Rick, I don't need (or want) to "understand" the politics of who likes you and who doesn't, as far as I am concerned, your work speaks for itself.

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                • Rick B
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 717

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
                  Rick, I don't need (or want) to "understand" the politics of who likes you and who doesn't, as far as I am concerned, your work speaks for itself.
                  Thank you Sir and I have always taken the utmost care in preserving Gun Stocks while trying to keep the Been there Done that look. I have fought with owners when they wanted the stock to look new or sand marks I know were from teh factory removed. Each stock presents its own life, challenge and history to which I admire and live for. Rick B

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                  • StockDoc
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1189

                    #24
                    Now you are just rambling Rick, trying to associate me with someone that you have a disagreement. Never said I don't work on stocks, I just don't change Historical stocks, I will oil them and put a Finn wax on them, that is it. I have contracted to several museums to clean their firearms and arrest the decay of the wood.

                    BTW, the Military never stained their everyday stocks, just ceremonial rifles. When oiled, black walnut has a nice color by itself. even later when a little sap wood became present in the Blanks, the Armories still did not stain their stocks.

                    Never been on the CMP site as a member, as a guest yes. Still don't know who you are, don't care who or what you do. All I know from your posts are that you are not open to suggestions. Have a nice life.
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                    • ww321q
                      Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 97

                      #25
                      Well I got it patched up. The forend still looks really bad but I only wanted to patch the missing pieces and not remove more wood than what had already been lost. All in all I'm happy with what I got. The rifle was in really bad shape and being parted out when I bought it. Mostly missing lock parts. Both sides of the tang area were broke out. Left side of tang , just a 1/4"x2" chip. Left of tang chipped out to center of lock. Chip in front of lock. All those repairs were done with Gorilla glue. Forend repairs done with epoxy.
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                      • StockDoc
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1189

                        #26
                        a real nice job, glad you left the "burnt" area on, adds to the stocks character.
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                        • ww321q
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 97

                          #27
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                          • ww321q
                            Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 97

                            #28
                            Originally posted by StockDoc
                            You will devalue that rifle by trying to repair it. Just stop the deterioration of the stock. Oil it carefully. If you want to shoot it, if it is shootable, that is. Put a new stock on it. The Burned area should stay on the stock, that is part of its history.
                            Look at the forend! It is literally falling apart! If a repair isn't done there wont be anything to hold the barrel band on, This rifle was in such bad shape it had almost zero value! Just "parts" Unlike allot of these rifles, this one has never been shortened. Old stuff that is in reasonable shape and never been touched has great value. Ones that have been maintained are of lesser value. Usually a lot less. This one was junk! Now it's not.

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                            • ww321q
                              Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 97

                              #29
                              Originally posted by StockDoc
                              a real nice job, glad you left the "burnt" area on, adds to the stocks character.
                              Thanks

                              I only wanted to do enough to make the wood complete. The metal was so badly rusted and pitted I wanted to clean it off. I removed all of the rust and coloring from the rust. I also left all the pits. Metal should start to look better in a couple years or so.

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                              • StockDoc
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 1189

                                #30
                                I have seen some that were found in the desert after 100 yrs and the stock is cracked and weathered and still have considerable value. Some collectors and decorators like that look. I know of one guy who sold a rifle to a decorator for a Restaurant that got more then he paid for the rifle. And it was worse then yours. One of the reasons I dislike repairing the old guns. But the gun is yours, do what you like.


                                Here is a tip of rust stains. Use "Hydrogen Peroxide wood bleach" apply with a Hobby Brush and the bleach does not have to be neutralized. But go very slow, it works fast.
                                Last edited by StockDoc; 06-29-2014, 09:29.
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