Odd-Looking US&S?

[Texas Red]

Does this US&S look "wrong" to anybody else?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=448658598

Good Luck and Good Shooting,

Tommy

[Blockislander]

Marc at Keystone Arms is a very reputable dealer. The gun looks nice to me.

[KeithNyst]

At least two things strike me as odd as well: The erosion of the C on the RCD where a take down scratch would have been and the SN font, especially the 1.

[Johnny P]

If Marc at Keystone Arms is selling this as an original US&S, he needs to have someone examine it that knows Model 1911A1 pistols.

[da gimp]

on the Colt .357 mag/pre Python......... guys on other forums are lamenting the fact that someone is making/faking /re-popping good quality older Colt boxes and US GI 1911A1 boxes...... So far no one has noted any fake older S&W boxes yet.......... but I'd get someone like JohnnyP to look hard at either pistol & the one box before I tendered a bid for any of it.........it'd be very hard to get your money back.............

[John C]

The trigger is incorrect.........should be of the stamped variety and blued. The magazine well looks as if someone has bored it out, it doesn't appear to be "tight" around the magazine............someone has done some work in that area. The barrel bushing looks to be of 1911 era with the pointed sharp feet. Those are just my observations. I'm sure other will either agree or disagree.

[Duane Hansen]

Looks to me like someone had a US&S slide and created a pistol around it. The frame looks like it started its life as a 1911 piece. The finger relief cuts are wrong and the serial number is completely bogus and newly stamped. What a bargain at only $6500

[ignats]

That gun has more problems than a run over dog. I agree the frame is totally bogus, possibly a Systema that was scrubbed. This is a prime example of why you shouldn't fool with refinished guns other than for shooter grade purposes. I wonder if he's wearing gloves so as not to leave finger prints.

[Scott Gahimer]

If Marc at Keystone Arms is selling this as an original US&S, he needs to have someone examine it that knows Model 1911A1 pistols.

I agree. It's not a US&S...and it's not a M1911 either.

[stan4]

Is the Slide Real?

Is the slide real? It does not look like the roll stamps in the "big books". I realize there were more than one roll stamp, but I could not find this one?

Best Regards,

[Blockislander]

I stand corrected after looking again. The roll marks are definitely wrong

[stan4]

Is the slide real? It does not look like the roll stamps in the "big books". I realize there were more than one roll stamp, but I could not find this one?

Best Regards,

I think I answered my own question---the slide serrations do not look right---too wide.? (Also, the left grip does not fit properly.)

[Mike Josephic]

Agree with the previous posters -- it's not what the seller is claiming it to be. It's an attempt to recreate
an original S&S and not very well done.

[joem]

Someone will get screwed on that.

[Marc@Keystone]

Sorry Guys but no one is getting screwed except for the consignor. A member emailed me a link to this thread and I pulled the plug on the auction. When I read Scott Gahimer's post I knew I was dealing with Junk his reputation precedes him. I've read the story of "First Day of Production Colt #33" I believe I have the serial number correct.

A friend of mine purchased this Firearm at the Louisville KY gun show earlier this month from some fellas from Tennessee. He has had buyers remorse from the beginning and he asked me to move it on down the line. ($5500 to answer the question running through most of your minds) Neither of us were qualified (not even remotely) to determine weather or not this piece was real. I know double action Colts, think I'll leave the 1911s to the experts.

Thanks to a member (Pistol1954) for keeping me from running this one completely off into the ditch.

Best Regards,

Marc
Keystone Arms