Poachers

[togor]

Out today with the wife hunting for & spraying garlic mustard on the part of our property that we haven't brought under fire management. Labor of love with me lugging a backpack sprayer through the thorns and briars.

We came across a large headless deer carcass, taken last fall/winter, judging by the look and smell of it. A fair guess would be that it was taken out of season, wounded on the public lands next door and then tracked on to our property. By no means the first carcass we've seen around here from an out-of-season hunt.

In the old days, when the king was the government, poaching on the king's land could be punished by death. We're kinder and gentler now, but I see nothing wrong with poachers losing their firearms permissions in an administrative action. Maybe even for life. Losing hunting licenses obviously doesn't matter to them, but maybe risking gun access will make them think twice, if the prospect for being caught a second time is a trip to prison. Of course the bleeding hearts at the NRA will claim this is far to severe a sanction, and yes it would never happen. But I spend a lot of time year round on that public land, and there isn't a trail sign on it that hasn't been used for target practice. Say what you will about the tree-huggers, but they seem to wear less on the public lands.

[leftyo]

poachers should be hung out to dry. 10yrs hard labor first offense. they steal from all of us!

[JB White]

Some states crack down hard on poachers when caught. Aside from fines and possible jail time, the DNR can confiscate anything used when the offense was committed. Loss of guns and equipment as well as their vehicle.

[Allen]

Sheesh, I guess I'll have to switch to scambled.

[aintright]

People that poach would not give shiet about gun rights . Here in Va. There are lots of laws and forfeiture penalties and the poachers just keep on doing it . Most of the people around here that are involved in slaying deer are either head hunting , bragging rights for the most deer , and some cut the back straps out and leave the rest .
Yeah it is sickening , especially when hear of jackasses lung shooting deer with a 22 LR and at ridiculous ranges .
That's a hell of a suffering a person I'd throwing on a critter and to just walk off and not give a shiet .
Some of my neighbors are in this crowd , don't work , do dope all the time , up all hours of the night , and don't have any ethics about animals .
Kenneth

[togor]

Probably right that the lowlifes don't care about any laws. I've thought about putting some trail cams in. There's a spot out front where the road is hidden on both sides, and people have dumped stuff in there like TVs. Stuff that isn't accepted at the Town dump.

[High Plaines Doug r]

Out today with the wife hunting for & spraying garlic mustard on the part of our property that we haven't brought under fire management. Labor of love with me lugging a backpack sprayer through the thorns and briars.

We came across a large headless deer carcass, taken last fall/winter, judging by the look and smell of it. A fair guess would be that it was taken out of season, wounded on the public lands next door and then tracked on to our property. By no means the first carcass we've seen around here from an out-of-season hunt.

In the old days, when the king was the government, poaching on the king's land could be punished by death. We're kinder and gentler now, but I see nothing wrong with poachers losing their firearms permissions in an administrative action. Maybe even for life. Losing hunting licenses obviously doesn't matter to them, but maybe risking gun access will make them think twice, if the prospect for being caught a second time is a trip to prison. Of course the bleeding hearts at the NRA will claim this is far to severe a sanction, and yes it would never happen. But I spend a lot of time year round on that public land, and there isn't a trail sign on it that hasn't been used for target practice. Say what you will about the tree-huggers, but they seem to wear less on the public lands.

A citation would be appropriate here regarding your claim of NRA support of criminals using firearms in the commission of any crime. It is my understanding that the NRA vigorously supports game management and strict enforcement of game laws and has for over the last 135+ years. If you could provide me with such I would be happy to defer my judgement of your claim as that of a troll or an imbecile.

[dryheat]

Did you find the Bud Lite cans to go along with most stupidity I see in the wild. Found an elk shot and left. It was drinking from the spring and it's dead body didn't help the water purity any. I didn't get it. Then I went back a week later and the rack was very neatly removed from the scull. They knew exactly how to do it for taxidermy purposes.

[p246]

If headless probably headhunters, the worst...We have to deal with road hunters here.

[togor]

Nobody is saying NRA is pro poaching Doug but I doubt they feel as strongly as I do about hammering the bastards where it hurts when I find a carcass on my property. Go back and re-read the post.

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If headless probably headhunters, the worst...We have to deal with road hunters here.

Big carcass.

[Faulkner]

A citation would be appropriate here regarding your claim of NRA support of criminals using firearms in the commission of any crime. It is my understanding that the NRA vigorously supports game management and strict enforcement of game laws and has for over the last 135+ years. If you could provide me with such I would be happy to defer my judgement of your claim as that of a troll or an imbecile.

I'm inclined to agree with Doug. The bleeding hearts typically hang out with the Sierra Club, not over at the NRA.

[Major Tom]

"Spot lighting" from our rural roads is big here. We see an auto driving the gravel roads shining a spot light into the fields. We know what they are up to! We call the Sheriff everytime!

[High Plaines Doug r]

Nobody is saying NRA is pro poaching Doug but I doubt they feel as strongly as I do about hammering the bastards where it hurts when I find a carcass on my property. Go back and re-read the post.

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Big carcass.

"... if the prospect for being caught a second time is a trip to prison. Of course the bleeding hearts at the NRA will claim this is far to (sic) severe a sanction..."

Citation please? It is not the purview of the NRA to write game laws or enforce them. They do however, regularly rail at the mis-use of firearms by such criminals as you are describing.

[togor]

"... if the prospect for being caught a second time is a trip to prison. Of course the bleeding hearts at the NRA will claim this is far to (sic) severe a sanction..."

Citation please? It is not the purview of the NRA to write game laws or enforce them. They do however, regularly rail at the mis-use of firearms by such criminals as you are describing.

Okay if you can find some strong language out of the NRA for convicted poachers losing gun rights then I'll take the correction. My understanding is that the NRA is a gun rights organization and they tend to lean into things from the perspective of minimizing losses of gun rights. Again it's not the poaching but how severe then penalties might be. Anyways nothing will come of it so it's mostly just me venting about the jerks who misuse public lands.

[High Plaines Doug r]

Okay if you can find some strong language out of the NRA for convicted poachers losing gun rights then I'll take the correction. My understanding is that the NRA is a gun rights organization and they tend to lean into things from the perspective of minimizing losses of gun rights. Again it's not the poaching but how severe then penalties might be. Anyways nothing will come of it so it's mostly just me venting about the jerks who misuse public lands.

As it is you accusing the NRA of being soft on crimes involving firearms or working to limit the severity of penalties for poaching, I don't feel inclined to do your research for you. The vast number of "jerks" out there and their misuse of public land has nothing to do with the work the NRA does protecting the civil rights of law abiding citizens. Unless/until you can provide me with a connection between the two; I stand by my original post: "Citation, troll or imbecile". Take your pick.