Canary and the coal mine

[Vern Humphrey]

yep, got a bag full of bags under the bathroom sink,,,

Take the extras to Wal Mart and leave them in the recycling bin.

[clintonhater]

Take the extras to Wal Mart and leave them in the recycling bin.

You'll be shocked to hear this, Vern, but not everyone lives by & through Walmart. Nearest one to me is almost 50 m., but that's not why I haven't been inside one, or any similar giant store, in over a dozen yrs.; nothing inside any of them is worth the aggravation of parking, crowds, & the AHs impossible to avoid inside. What I can't find in my local stores or on-line, I can live without.

Walmart wanted to place a store in the nearest big small town around here, 20 m. away, but they insisted on building a super-store, not a smaller one as the town wanted, so they were refused a permit. I'm SO glad, because a few yrs later Tractor Supply built a store in the same location; I love it! If it were a little closer, I'd be tempted to go there everyday just to walk around & listen to the baby ducks & chicks they have this time of yr & listen to the country music radio station played on their PA. What do you hear in your Walmart?

[Vern Humphrey]

You'll be shocked to hear this, Vern, but not everyone lives by & through Walmart. Nearest one to me is almost 50 m., but that's not why I haven't been inside one, or any similar giant store, in over a dozen yrs.; nothing inside any of them is worth the aggravation of parking, crowds, & the AHs impossible to avoid inside. What I can't find in my local stores or on-line, I can live without.

Walmart wanted to place a store in the nearest big small town around here, 20 m. away, but they insisted on building a super-store, not a smaller one as the town wanted, so they were refused a permit. I'm SO glad, because a few yrs later Tractor Supply built a store in the same location; I love it! If it were a little closer, I'd be tempted to go there everyday just to walk around & listen to the baby ducks & chicks they have this time of yr & listen to the country music radio station played on their PA. What do you hear in your Walmart?

What does this mean?

You said plastic bags can't be recycled. I told you where you can leave plastic bags to be recycled -- not where to shop, listen to music or see baby ducks.

[clintonhater]

What does this mean?

You said plastic bags can't be recycled. I told you where you can leave plastic bags to be recycled

Among other things, it means I'm not (nor anybody in their right mind) driving a round trip of 100 miles to recycle them. Luckily, I don't NEED to recycle them because for many yrs I've been using my own canvas shopping bags, or, once in a while, paying 5 cents for a paper bag which I need for trash anyway. Also, both grocery stores in the nearest town sell cheap cloth bags for about $2.

But the reason they've been banned in several states is NOT because there's no nearby Walmart or other place to recycle them, it's because of the many who use their car window, a parking lot or other public place, etc. as their recycling center.

[Vern Humphrey]

Among other things, it means I'm not (nor anybody in their right mind) driving a round trip of 100 miles to recycle them. Luckily, I don't NEED to recycle them because for many yrs I've been using my own canvas shopping bags, or, once in a while, paying 5 cents for a paper bag which I need for trash anyway. Also, both grocery stores in the nearest town sell cheap cloth bags for about $2.

But the reason they've been banned in several states is NOT because there's no nearby Walmart or other place to recycle them, it's because of the many who use their car window, a parking lot or other public place, etc. as their recycling center.

And no other form of trash is left behind by those people?

[clintonhater]

And no other form of trash is left behind by those people?

Of course not, but, unlike, for ex., the used diapers scumbags dump by the road & elsewhere (I've picked up dozens of them when doing the roadside cleanup my Fish & Game Club carries out every year), plastic bags have the ability to "fly" hundreds of yards from wherever they were thrown out; that's why I see them way off the roads, & in the rivers that many of the roads where I live have to follow to avoid the mountains.

[Vern Humphrey]

Of course not, but, unlike, for ex., the used diapers scumbags dump by the road & elsewhere (I've picked up dozens of them when doing the roadside cleanup my Fish & Game Club carries out every year), plastic bags have the ability to "fly" hundreds of yards from wherever they were thrown out; that's why I see them way off the roads, & in the rivers that many of the roads where I live have to follow to avoid the mountains.

But have you read the article in Discover? They make a damn good case taht cloth bags are a net loss -- not to mention the fact that in many places cloth bags are now prohibited because they can transmit the Corona Virus.

[clintonhater]

But have you read the article in Discover? They make a damn good case taht cloth bags are a net loss -- not to mention the fact that in many places cloth bags are now prohibited because they can transmit the Corona Virus.

Net loss where? I've never see a cloth bag thrown out on the road. Every one of the three canvas bags I use are at least 20 yrs old with no sign of wearing out. The handle of one ripped off, so I sewed it back on. You refuse to acknowledge the main reason they have been banned--trashing the environment; starting to look like this simply isn't something you worry about. Millions of them wind up in the ocean where they kill all sorts of marine life when they're swallowed. All this to spare people the "inconvenience" of buying a cheap cloth bag, which, if you forget it, can be bought in the store you're shopping in?

[Vern Humphrey]

Net loss where? I've never see a cloth bag thrown out on the road. Every one of the three canvas bags I use are at least 20 yrs old with no sign of wearing out. The handle of one ripped off, so I sewed it back on. You refuse to acknowledge the main reason they have been banned--trashing the environment; starting to look like this simply isn't something you worry about. Millions of them wind up in the ocean where they kill all sorts of marine life when they're swallowed. All this to spare people the "inconvenience" of buying a cheap cloth bag, which, if you forget it, can be bought in the store you're shopping in?

Read the article -- "In 2018 the Danish Environmental Protection Agency put together a big assessment of the environmental impacts of different types of shopping bags . . .paper bags and plastic based bags required between 35 and 84 re-uses. A cotton tote, though, had to be re-used 7,100 times."

In other words, if you used your cotton tote EVERY day, you'd have to use it about 19 1/2 years to offset the environmental impact.

[lyman]

Take the extras to Wal Mart and leave them in the recycling bin.

we use them as disposable trash can liners for the small trash can in the bathroom,,,,

[S.A. Boggs]

Kroger's has paper bags which I use for other things. These bags when cut make excellent silhouette 3/4 targets.
Sam

[lyman]

Read the article -- "In 2018 the Danish Environmental Protection Agency put together a big assessment of the environmental impacts of different types of shopping bags . . .paper bags and plastic based bags required between 35 and 84 re-uses. A cotton tote, though, had to be re-used 7,100 times."

In other words, if you used your cotton tote EVERY day, you'd have to use it about 19 1/2 years to offset the environmental impace.

I think you are looking at that wrong,

maybe,


meanwhile, there have been studies that show how nasty are reusable shopping bag can get,

[Vern Humphrey]

we use them as disposable trash can liners for the small trash can in the bathroom,,,,

So do we -- in fact we line several trash cans with them. I also line a coat pocket with them, so I can carry carrots and apples for the horses.

[Former Cav]

I used to use them to pick up dog waste back when we had a dog.
too bad I didn't save all that dog waste to send off to pelosi

[Vern Humphrey]

I used to use them to pick up dog waste back when we had a dog.
too bad I didn't save all that dog waste to send off to pelosi

She'd have thought it was perfume.