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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #31
    Originally posted by Gun Smoke
    This was the sentiment of the Americans prior to WW2. Because of all the Japanese embedded into American society along with the native Hawaiians who are chinky looking themselves, many of them were spy's sending info to Japan about Pearl Harbor making the attack as s million + people killed globally in WW2. 1 million killed globally now. No other culture/race/society has caused more grief to the world.
    uccessful as it was. Most considered themselves citizens, some wanted to help, some even wanted to serve and fight against them but none could be trusted. That's why over 100,000 of them were corralled and put in camps so they could be watched. At the time we didn't know what all was going on or what to expect next. Not a whole lot different from now.

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    Degrading this forum would be taking a liberal point of view of how great the Chinese are, how we shouldn't say bad things about them or call them names, how the world can't survive w/o them, and say they cause and do no harm.

    I believe you said you were a former cop. As you know, a few bad apples spoils the whole bunch sometimes.
    I was born just before WII got started and I think I have a pretty good idea of the time period..

    Yes a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch, but don't blame the rest of the bunch...Enough said by me..I just hate for this forum to become known as a bigoted site..
    Last edited by rayg; 05-02-2020, 07:01.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11269

      #32
      Originally posted by Gun Smoke
      This was the sentiment of the Americans prior to WW2. Because of all the Japanese embedded into American society along with the native Hawaiians who are chinky looking themselves, many of them were spy's sending info to Japan about Pearl Harbor making the attack as successful as it was. Most considered themselves citizens, some wanted to help, some even wanted to serve and fight against them but none could be trusted. That's why over 100,000 of them were corralled and put in camps so they could be watched. At the time we didn't know what all was going on or what to expect next. Not a whole lot different from now.

      1 million + people killed globally in WW2. 1 million killed globally now. No other culture/race/society has caused more grief to the world.

      Degrading this forum would be taking a liberal point of view of how great the Chinese are, how we shouldn't say bad things about them or call them names, how the world can't survive w/o them, and say they cause and do no harm.

      I believe you said you were a former cop. As you know, a few bad apples spoils the whole bunch sometimes.
      could be construed that calling them names is a rules violation,

      maybe,


      and Ray does have a point,


      we could try to limit the slang and just use the proper name,

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #33
        So we shouldn't call Negro's blacks or whites Caucasians or Canadian's Canuck's or British people Limey's? Where do you draw the line? Some words offend most anyone.

        While I agree we shouldn't purposely offend an individual for no reason I don't see having a liberal PC attitude toward those who attack, invade and kill us.

        I guess I'm just funny that way.

        So much for freedom of speech huh?

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11269

          #34
          Originally posted by Gun Smoke
          So we shouldn't call Negro's blacks or whites Caucasians or Canadian's Canuck's or British people Limey's? Where do you draw the line? Some words offend most anyone.

          While I agree we shouldn't purposely offend an individual for no reason I don't see having a liberal PC attitude toward those who attack, invade and kill us.

          I guess I'm just funny that way.

          So much for freedom of speech huh?
          Smoke,


          that line in the sand is forever shifting,



          if sysad says it is bad, she may add it to the nannyware, or not,

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #35
            Originally posted by Gun Smoke
            So we shouldn't call Negro's blacks or whites Caucasians or Canadian's Canuck's or British people Limey's? Where do you draw the line? Some words offend most anyone.
            And more to the point, some people (or rather many) go out of their ways to find excuses to BE offended!

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            • rayg
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 7444

              #36
              Originally posted by clintonhater
              And more to the point, some people (or rather many) go out of their ways to find excuses to BE offended!
              And some people, (or a few), go out of their way to be offensive...

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #37
                Question for CH and GS: how does use of the slur advance your argument?

                Answer: it doesn't. In fact, it undercuts it completely because it demonstrates unreasoned animosity as the real driver, with the virus as just a convenient topic. The slur makes everything with it irrelevant.

                Kudos to Ray for pointing this out.

                To the OP: so outsourcing the USPS to the China to save money is probably off the table now, right?

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #38
                  Originally posted by togor
                  ... it demonstrates unreasoned animosity
                  UNREASONED??? China has been a force for evil in this world ever since they drove out our WW II ally, Chiang Kai-shek, with Stalin's military aid. They encouraged the N. Korean invasion of the South, & then supported that invasion with several hundred thousand of their own troops. Without their economic assistance, the North would have imploded & we wouldn't face Kim's nuclear threat. North Vietnam would never have been able to wage their war against the South without economic & military assistance from China. Tibet? An ancient & peaceful culture deliberately obliterated!

                  But the MOST evil & despicable war they have ever launched is their war against endangered wildlife all over the world! The stone-age craziness called "Chinese medicine" has resulted in the extinction of one species of rhino & severely endangered the others. Their insatiable craving for ivory nicnacs has pushed African elephants to the brink of extinction. They sustain the illegal market in countless other endangered animal "parts."

                  And now, almost without opposition from the cowardly West, they have colonized the South China Sea!

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #39
                    And look, you managed to get your point across, that much more persuasively, for not resorting to a slur!

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                    • rayg
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7444

                      #40
                      Yes he did.. and an interesting and informative post .....

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                      • jon_norstog
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3896

                        #41
                        Originally posted by clintonhater
                        OF COURSE, "USPS never gave up on packages"! Most of what I buy on line is shipped that way, including recently a pair of 5' long steel rocker-panel covers for my rusted out Cherokee.

                        But my biggest gripe against USPS is that PP has, for all practical purposes, been made pointless, because the price difference between PP & Priority is now negligible, except possibly for the very heaviest items.
                        As the OP I would like to get the topic back to the Post Office. I mentioned there were some political issues that were giving the PO no option but to raise rates. It has long been a dream in some quarters to cut mail delivery out of the commonwealth, sell it for pennies on the dollar, and turn it into a profit center. These political issues include a requirement that the PO fully fund in the present its future pension obligations. This is the only government agency required to do this, far as I know. Let USPS pay as it goes and the problem disappears. One of the legislative houses is adamant that this requirement stay in place. That's why I am saying write your senators. You have two of them and they both represent you. They get fifty letters and they will listen.

                        jn

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