The war in Iran

[5thDragoons]

Gav thinks he's going to be the next prez? Hah! AOC has a better chance than him, and she has the mental horsepower of a turnip!

Actually, the most electable democrat right now is Fetterman, but he's too far toward the right for them to run him. SW

[Johnny P]

Amazing that all the stations decide to go up on the same day. They are at the mercy of the distributors, and the distributors dictate the prices

[lyman]

Amazing that all the stations decide to go up on the same day. They are at the mercy of the distributors, and the distributors dictate the prices

not in this area, gas is basically allocated, and the distributors deliver based on need (most use a system or system like Veedor Root, that sends messages when fuel is low)
the store owner or retailer sets the prices, based on the competition and what they want for a margin,

margin, as in profit, is usually low on gas itself,

[Allen]

"margin, as in profit, is usually low on gas itself,"

True. Most if not all older gas stations that sold gas only went out of business many decades ago. Gas stations now have to sell convenience and/or deli food to show a suitable profit plus stay open 24/7. The "mom and pop" gas stations are gone.

[Johnny P]

not in this area, gas is basically allocated, and the distributors deliver based on need (most use a system or system like Veedor Root, that sends messages when fuel is low)
the store owner or retailer sets the prices, based on the competition and what they want for a margin,

margin, as in profit, is usually low on gas itself,

When Murphy U.S.A. opened its first station in our town they had super low prices compared to the other stations. The local distributor for other brands threatened to take them to court, and Murphy caved rather than get into a publicized court battle. What grounds I have no idea, but Murphy went up to match the other stations in town.
The distributor controls the prices, and the station has to mark their gasoline up in order to make a profit over what the distributor charges.

[S.A. Boggs]

$2.79 local
Sam

[PWC]

Phlenix, $4.19 two hrs ago. Makes me wish (kinda) I ztill had the Pris, 55 mpg

[Doc Sharptail]

Most of the gas station biz here is still oil company owned- 75-80%.
The non-oil co. aligned stations tend to be a few cents cheaper sometimes.
Hit 1.49.9 here yesterday morning, which is knife-edge 6 bucks CAD a gallon.
I'll do alright if I remember to keep the rpms down below 2000 in our little 4 banger Ford 4 X 4.
The blower in it drinks just as much gas a small block 8.

-D.S.

[Allen]

Not saying you're wrong but how do you know the stations are owned by the oil companies? A Chevron, Shell, Exxon, etc sign just means that the franchise to use the name has been bought along with the advertisement, reputation, signs, CC use, etc . Also, if a major producer, the additives advertised for that brand will be added to the fuel which is normally delivered by a third party common carrier. IE: Chevron uses Techron, etc. It is added at the loading dock as the tankers fill up. Otherwise all gasoline is the same. All refineries have to meet API specs per octane, gravity, vapor pressure and so forth. All 87 octane gas is the same. All, 89 oct "' "" "". All 92 octane is the same. What is different are the additives which act as a detergent. A continuous use of fuel from non-company branded stations selling fuel with no additives can cause excessive build up of carbon deposits over time mainly on the valve faces.

Diesel isn't as critical as most all highway use diesel is required to be ultra low sulfur. A branded station may have less sulfur. These days if you see a diesel powered vehicle smoking real bad they usually have some type of engine problem. This requirement came about in the early to mid 90's best I remember. If you'll recall, you don't see may diesels producing smoke these days. Low sulfur diesel is not required for farm use so farmers can buy bulk diesel for a few cents less per gallon.

Irrelevant stuff you may have known or didn't want to know.

[lyman]

Not saying you're wrong but how do you know the stations are owned by the oil companies? A Chevron, Shell, Exxon, etc sign just means that the franchise to use the name has been bought along with the advertisement, reputation, signs, CC use, etc . Also, if a major producer, the additives advertised for that brand will be added to the fuel which is normally delivered by a third party common carrier. IE: Chevron uses Techron, etc. It is added at the loading dock as the tankers fill up. Otherwise all gasoline is the same. All refineries have to meet API specs per octane, gravity, vapor pressure and so forth. All 87 octane gas is the same. All, 89 oct "' "" "". All 92 octane is the same. What is different are the additives which act as a detergent. A continuous use of fuel from non-company branded stations selling fuel with no additives can cause excessive build up of carbon deposits over time mainly on the valve faces.

Diesel isn't as critical as most all highway use diesel is required to be ultra low sulfur. A branded station may have less sulfur. These days if you see a diesel powered vehicle smoking real bad they usually have some type of engine problem. This requirement came about in the early to mid 90's best I remember. If you'll recall, you don't see may diesels producing smoke these days. Low sulfur diesel is not required for farm use so farmers can buy bulk diesel for a few cents less per gallon.

Irrelevant stuff you may have known or didn't want to know.

yup, Kinder Morgan and AMOCO are the 2 big hubs here, and both load gas, then whatever additive dictated by brand, when loading the truck

I do know that 10+ yrs ago even Kroger branded stations got some minimum or minimal detergent added, not Top Tier but something,

Doc Sharptail, surprised your Foad does poorly when driven hard with the turbo,

I had 2 Cooper S's , both 1.6 4 banger turbo, and they avg'ed 30-32 MPG, and that was with me keeping my foot in them about 1/2 time

[Doc Sharptail]

Doc Sharptail, surprised your Ford does poorly when driven hard with the turbo,

I had 2 Cooper S's , both 1.6 4 banger turbo, and they avg'ed 30-32 MPG, and that was with me keeping my foot in them about 1/2 time

We got the Escape cheap- a high miler at about 179,000 miles at time of purchase. It could probably use an injector cleaning quite badly- a rural vehicle that likely burned a bit of "purple" gas. For a vehicle of it's weight, I think 4 cyl is underpowered. The original design was for a V-6 of the 3L class. I'm getting 19-22 mpg in the city, and about 26-28 on the highway. It would probably be easier on gas without the 4-WD, but I love it as is.

-D.S.

[Allen]

I have a Ford F-150 3.5 (V6 4 cam) twin turbo Eco Boost.

The boost part is real. It puts out 365hp/430# torque, will break the tires (mud grips at that) loose @20mph. Runs very smooth--you would never guess it wasn't a V8.

The Eco part is false. It only gets 14 mpg. The same as my old 1990 Silverado farm truck 350 V8.

But, I didn't buy it for gas mileage.

[Allen]

Speaking of the Iran war. Compare this to hillary's "what difference does it make now" response.

https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-join-grieving-families-return-125025653.html

[Oyaji]

Speaking of the Iran war. Compare this to hillary's "what difference does it make now" response.

https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-j...125025653.html

Also notice that Trump is fully alert rendering respect and honors during the dignified transfer of the fallen soldiers unlike when Sleepy Joe Biden who kept looking at his watch, appeared bored and would rather be elsewhere during the Dover AFB transfer of 13 remains following the Abbey Gate bombing at Kabul. Big difference.....

[Johnny P]

"Not saying you're wrong but how do you know the stations are owned by the oil companies?"

When the refinery and the gas station have the same name, not that hard to figure out.