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  • Johnny P
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 6259

    #1

    Early Gas Port Barrel

    Another early gas port barrel.



  • bruce
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3759

    #2
    Gorgeous barrel! Loose or attached to a receiver? Sincerely. bruce.
    " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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    • Major Tom
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 6181

      #3
      Other than the date, what is the difference between early and newer barrels?

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      • RCS
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2180

        #4
        another S-A 8-40 barrel

        This barrel which is also dated S-A 8-40 has London British proof stamps

        receiver is in the 52K serial rangeP1010024_1_0020_020.jpg

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        • RCS
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2180

          #5
          gas trap barrels

          The gas trap barrel is a few inches shorter than the gas port barrel and without a gas port. the gas trap barrel is made so
          that the gas cylinder is screwed on to the barrel with a single spline cut into the top of the barrel. the front sight locks into
          the barrel to keep the gas cylinder in place.

          Gas trap barrels in good condition are worth around 10K and up if located, this also means that fakes are around. The gas
          trap barrels have a different drawing number. In my photos, the middle barrel is originalP1010024_0023.jpgP1010022_0021.jpgp1010009_0010.jpgp1010014_0015.jpg

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          • Johnny P
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6259

            #6
            Originally posted by Major Tom
            Other than the date, what is the difference between early and newer barrels?
            None other than the date and markings, and being virtually impossible to find.

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            • Johnny P
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 6259

              #7
              Originally posted by RCS
              This barrel which is also dated S-A 8-40 has London British proof stamps

              receiver is in the 52K serial range[ATTACH=CONFIG]51529[/ATTACH]
              Too early for the Lend Lease rifles. Must have come back through England at some later date.

              Canada received about 1500 Colt 1911A1 pistols through Lend-Lease in WW2. After the war they were sold by the Canadian government to an arms merchant and were shipped to England where they were British proofed, and some shipped back to the U.S. commercial market. They have the Canadian broadarrow C property mark on receiver and slide as well as the British commercial sales proofs.

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              Originally posted by bruce
              Gorgeous barrel! Loose or attached to a receiver? Sincerely. bruce.
              Loose. Bought it for a September 1940 rifle with a bad bore, but actually a month early for it and couldn't bring myself to change it.

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              • RCS
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2180

                #8
                more early rifles

                The S-A 8-40 barrel with London proofs is not from the Lend Lease period, found two other
                M1 rifles, both four digit and with the S-A 8-40 dated barrels, one was London proofed, data
                from GCA records.

                Two rifles that had some restoration but both have S-A 7-40 dated barrels, late SA SPG no
                trap stocks with two equal sized holes. The 52112 rifle has original keystone and comp springdscn2771.jpgdscn2770.jpgdscn2767.jpgdscn1115.jpgdscn1118.jpg

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                • Johnny P
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6259

                  #9
                  Op-rod and springs on the 9-40 barrel rifle. Has original SA/SPG stock, but some goober had crudely modified the butt to take a trap butt plate, but thankfully none of the modification showed and I had the area restored.

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                  • RCS
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2180

                    #10
                    early gas port sn 63282 with S-A 9-40 bbl

                    This rifle came from the west cost about 20 years ago. Could have been one of Bishop's rifles but
                    not certain. The bore is really nice with a T.E. 4.0. Missing the comp spring but still has the keystone
                    on the rare round body follower roddscn3398.jpgdscn3391.jpgdscn3372.jpgdscn3392.jpgdscn3395.jpg

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RCS
                      This rifle came from the west cost about 20 years ago. Could have been one of Bishop's rifles but
                      not certain. The bore is really nice with a T.E. 4.0. Missing the comp spring but still has the keystone
                      on the rare round body follower rod[ATTACH=CONFIG]51559[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]51560[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]51561[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]51562[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]51563[/ATTACH]
                      nice find,

                      Mne, #176, was a school gun, with a 41 (IIRC, need to pull it out the back of the safe to be sure) dated barrel,

                      brother has 969,

                      dad found both in a school long long ago

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                      • Major Tom
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6181

                        #12
                        Very interesting posts. I thank all who contributed.

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                        • Johnny P
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6259

                          #13
                          Early follower rod with Keystone compensating and recoil springs. The early rifles did not have quite enough oomph to cycle reliably and the follower rod was modified and the compensating spring was added, 1935 I think. The early follower rod had the shoulder for the spring at the front of the rod.

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                          • RCS
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2180

                            #14
                            keystone and comp spring

                            The first 5000 (approx) Winchester manufactured rifles also had the keystone and comp spring, This was during the
                            first part of 1941. Rifle in photo is a20d9ac2d-8ecb-4a25-912a-2982a5fd4805_0021.jpgd0dca638-3bfe-420e-aab1-7e2c7bfaea23_0023.jpg0aaeb6f0-d77d-4b6a-9384-fb9f4be42968_0026.jpgP1010062_0052.jpg three digit serial number (also pictured in Canfield's book) that was serial numbered
                            on Jan 15th 1941

                            stock is no trap WRA RS cartouche

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                            • RCS
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2180

                              #15
                              Springfield Dec 1940 rifle

                              This rifle came from a company named Paragon and cost $450.00. Came with original S-A 12-40 barrel with a nice
                              bore. Bolt still had the round firing pin, but the real prize was the original keystone spring on a round body follower
                              rod. There were other early low numbers with keystone springs but the springs were broken and came out in three
                              or four inch sections from the op rod. Stock was replace with a barnwood SA GHS stock plus other parts were also
                              replaced. I did remove the keystone springdscn0536.jpgdscn0537.jpgdscn0539.jpgdscn0552.jpg

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