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  • twh
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 224

    #1

    Correct bolt for 3.2 million Remington 03

    What would be the correct bolt for a 3.2 million Remington 03 and does anyone have a picture of said bolt by any chance?

    Thomas
  • Merc
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1690

    #2
    The size of the gas escape hole was one way tell the difference between a bolt from a ‘03 and an 03A3.

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    The hole was made larger for the 03A3. Otherwise, they look identical and are interchangeable.

    3.2 M S/N would be an 03A3 made in late ‘42.
    Last edited by Merc; 10-17-2019, 07:07.

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      Originally posted by Merc
      The size of the gas escape hole was one way tell the difference between a bolt from a ‘03 and an 03A3.

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      The hole was made larger for the 03A3. Otherwise, they look identical and are interchangeable.

      3.2 M S/N would be an 03A3 made in late ‘42.
      The earliest verified M1903A3 was in the 3,320,000 range and a relatively bare handful of those were made. They don't seem to be relatively common until the 3,360,000 range.

      Remington M1903s are common until the same range (3,360,000) as well. M1903s and M1903A3s were produced at the same time between about Nov., 1942 and early 1943.
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      • Merc
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1690

        #4
        My error. I found other more complete lists on S/Ns that show blocks of numbers given to each mfr.

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        • Merc
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 1690

          #5
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          Here’s a photo comparing ‘03 bolt handles that might be useful.
          Last edited by Merc; 10-19-2019, 05:31.

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          • John Beard
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2275

            #6
            Originally posted by twh
            What would be the correct bolt for a 3.2 million Remington 03 and does anyone have a picture of said bolt by any chance?

            Thomas
            The correct bolt for your rifle would have a very small "R" stamped beneath the handle, undercutting along the bolt body, a stamped extractor collar marked with a small encircled "R", a large gas escape hole, and the bottom of the ejector slot would be rounded. The bolt may also have a small "42" stamped beneath the handle if your rifle is in the upper serial range.

            Good Luck!

            J.B.

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            • twh
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 224

              #7
              Thank you for all the help.

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              • Randy A
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 615

                #8
                Originally posted by Merc
                The size of the gas escape hole was one way tell the difference between a bolt from a ‘03 and an 03A3.

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]46640[/ATTACH]

                The hole was made larger for the 03A3. Otherwise, they look identical and are interchangeable.

                3.2 M S/N would be an 03A3 made in late ‘42.
                The vent hole is not a reliable identification, they were enlarged in the 30's. There are a number of differences between 03 and A3, general milling of the bolt body is different, (recess adjacent to safety lug and around front lugs) the detents are absent from the A3 and for the trained eye, no A3 handle was the same as any 03 bolt handle. Even the early A3 bolt handle that was longer than all the rest (R 42). It was short lived, after that the rear curve to the handle was a forged dogleg.
                I'll take a look, I might have a spare R 42.
                Last edited by Randy A; 11-26-2019, 05:19.

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                • twh
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 224

                  #9
                  If you find an extra let me know.

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                  • fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 684

                    #10
                    I have at least 30 03A3 bolts, I also have a couple of unfinished bolts that that were made for a different purpose. And then I have access to a few hundred more. When it comes to matching bolts to rifles I match bolts to chambers. I want to know the effect the bolt has on the length of the chamber from the shoulder of the chamber to the bolt face.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fguffey
                      I have at least 30 03A3 bolts, I also have a couple of unfinished bolts that that were made for a different purpose. And then I have access to a few hundred more. When it comes to matching bolts to rifles I match bolts to chambers. I want to know the effect the bolt has on the length of the chamber from the shoulder of the chamber to the bolt face.

                      F. Guffey
                      you are not trying to correct or fix (as in make period correct) a 1903

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                      • fguffey
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 684

                        #12
                        Default Correct bolt for 3.2 million Remington 03

                        What would be the correct bolt for a 3.2 million Remington 03 and does anyone have a picture of said bolt by any chance?

                        you are not trying to correct or fix (as in make period correct) a 1903
                        I also have Brown & Sharp matching sets complete in boxes of two. When I measure the effect each has on changing the length of the chamber the difference is 'Zero'.

                        Period correct? Most of my bolts are period correct for the Remington. I have one rock Island that requires a straight handled bolt, that would be period correct for the 1911. When matching bolts to 03s and 03A3s there is a small chance I could miss one of them and then there are the bolts I have taken to guns shows; I started out trying to find information and then gave up.

                        F. Guffey

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                        • fguffey
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 684

                          #13
                          and then there are the bolts I have taken to guns shows; I started out trying to find information and then gave up.
                          Lyman, I take you for someone that has seen everything and knows all. I have a few bolts that others claim do not exist and if they did they would not work meaning they are useless? I tried to explain to one individual I could measure the length of any 03 or 03A3 ect. chamber with one of the bolts. AND? for some reason or he did not believe me because he had never heard of a bolt like that.

                          I listed an electric brand for sale on one of the 'for sale sites'. When I purchased it in Salt Lake, Utah I could not convince the seller the brand was not an NRA National Rifle Association brand. So? That left me with paying for something that was very rare for a cheap price. I was thinking if the seller knew what the brand was he would not sell it.

                          F. Guffey

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fguffey
                            Lyman, I take you for someone that has seen everything and knows all. I have a few bolts that others claim do not exist and if they did they would not work meaning they are useless? I tried to explain to one individual I could measure the length of any 03 or 03A3 ect. chamber with one of the bolts. AND? for some reason or he did not believe me because he had never heard of a bolt like that.

                            I listed an electric brand for sale on one of the 'for sale sites'. When I purchased it in Salt Lake, Utah I could not convince the seller the brand was not an NRA National Rifle Association brand. So? That left me with paying for something that was very rare for a cheap price. I was thinking if the seller knew what the brand was he would not sell it.

                            F. Guffey

                            I have not seen everything and only know some,

                            however the point I was making went over your head,
                            (and the post you quoted in this comment is not mine)


                            there are references in many places on the net, including the knowledge shared by Mr. Beard, Rick the Librarian and some others as well as written (as in a book) on what bolt is correct for each maker and even serial number ranges,

                            info that certainly is not infallible, but info that was gained from many years of experience from them and others,

                            if you own a 03 or 03A3 and want it correct, that info is invaluable, (and THANK YOU to both for their contributions)

                            it is also good info to have if you just want a good shooter, or want to check to see if your rifle is correct after a rebuild etc,


                            as I have said before, you tend to post in a way that talks down to other members , or is very condescending,
                            that may be your style,, but others will not appreciate it,





                            either way, there are collectors that wants things as they were,

                            and those that have shooters , and don't care about how original (as in as they left the factory or depot) they are,


                            you fall in the shooter category, or appear to based on your posts,

                            you fail to grasp the others, again, as based on your posts, want things to be as they left the factory or depot,



                            please post up some pics and descriptions of your Bolts,

                            some here will be interested,

                            and some here may have some like them,

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                            • fguffey
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 684

                              #15
                              Lyman, you remind me of an Alabama leg Dog.

                              F. Guffey

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