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  • cwbuff
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 275

    #1

    Check out this M1903

    I have not seen one like this in quite some time. See Gun Auction #13357674.
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  • Rick the Librarian
    Super Moderator
    • Aug 2009
    • 6700

    #2
    When I tried to look the auction up, I was told by GB it is no longer in the system.
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    • 1563621
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1103

      #3
      www.gunauction.com › Guns For Sale - C&R › Rifle

      item:13357674 guns for sale - c&r : springfield armory ~ u.s. model 1903....very scarce, - completely original as mfd in 1907...c&r...no re

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      • cwbuff
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 275

        #4
        Here is the link http://www.gunauction.com/buy/13357674/
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        • Promo
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 335

          #5
          Something is wrong with that stock. The P proof should be script - or am I'm wrong?

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          • RCS
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2180

            #6
            SA 160963 and CCV carouche

            My SA 160963 with a SA 2-07 barrel also has the CCV cartouche on a no-bolt stock and circle non serif P proofP1010020_0009.jpgP1010021_0010.jpgP1010028_0024.jpgP1010031_0027.jpgP1010026_0022.jpg

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #7
              Great photos!

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              • Emri
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1649

                #8
                Originally posted by Promo
                Something is wrong with that stock. The P proof should be script - or am I'm wrong?
                That is a very good question. I would have stated that the proof "P" should be script but then RCS showed his which appears plain also.

                I checked in John's book, "Service Rifle Production and Alteration 1905-1910" and could not find any mention of the final proof markings.

                I did note that that rifle assembly had fallen way behind receiver production. It is interesting to note that RCS's rifle # 160963 has a barrel date of 2-07. The rifle shown in the auction, #231520 has a barrel date of 6-07.

                The first RECIEVER numbered in January 1907 was # 269451.

                Maybe John will tell us about the final proof markings.


                Emri
                Last edited by Emri; 04-22-2015, 07:38. Reason: correct a number

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                • Rick the Librarian
                  Super Moderator
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6700

                  #9
                  I didn't notice the block P until it was pointed out. I'd be curious, as well.

                  I have #230,477, also in the same "time frame" as the auction rifle, although not in as good of condition. The rifle has a BHM (see below) and a VERY faint script P. It has a 1908 30-06 barrel.







                  This rifle, which I purchased from a member of this forum, had one of the most interesting "sales requirements" ever - the seller wanted me to display the rifle, when I first got it, with "THE" Afghan!! LOL!

                  "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
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                  • Roadkingtrax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7835

                    #10
                    Nice rifle for sure. As are those posted here.

                    The hairline crack behind the receiver tang, would that just be the result of the no-bolt stock configuration? Obviously the rifle has been shot, but not much.
                    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 04-22-2015, 11:54.
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                    • Smokeeaterpilot
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 290

                      #11
                      I've seen several Jack the Dogs auctions he always has very nice stuff aND amazing pictures.

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                      • Emri
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1649

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Smokeeaterpilot
                        I've seen several Jack the Dogs auctions he always has very nice stuff aND amazing pictures.
                        Yes he does, ( have nice stuff ), and I wish I had a "photo set-up" like his photographer uses. They ARE well made.

                        Waiting on JB to answer about the proof "P".

                        Emri

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                        • John Beard
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Promo
                          Something is wrong with that stock. The P proof should be script - or am I'm wrong?
                          You're wrong.

                          J.B.

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                          • Promo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 335

                            #14
                            This is one time I'm happy that I'm wrong, thanks John! Is there any reason why CCV marked stocks do not have a script P?

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                            • John Beard
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2275

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Promo
                              This is one time I'm happy that I'm wrong, thanks John! Is there any reason why CCV marked stocks do not have a script P?
                              During the 1906-08 period, Springfield used a block "P" proof mark. I don't know if it was continuous, or intermittent, i.e., mixed. But a rifle from the 1906-08 period can correctly have a block "P" proof mark.

                              J.B.

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