"The cops murdered my son."

[Vern Humphrey]

It's not up to you to judge the Police officer did the shooting or the man who was shot. It's all in the courts and Gods hands not yours or mine. So till more facts come out then just stop making noise about it.

It is, however, up to us to judge the system. And if the system fails to bring justice, we have a perfect right to complain, demonstrate and press our elected representatives.

[Bill D]

About 20 years ago, I drilled with a National Guard aviation battalion near a large metro area and at least seven of the Officer/WO pilot slots were filled by active police officers from surrounding jurisdictions. I had ample opportunities to listen in while these officers BS’ed with each other about their experiences, I came away with the following impressions:
1. The public is about 75% filled with no account dog$hit nere-do-wells who have no business breathing the air that must be shared.
2. These officers have the absolute authority to decide who the above low life’s are and how they should be dealt with.
3. If circumstances dictate that that it might very well be very difficult to obtain a conviction on one of the above low life’s, then the officer has to adjust the circumstances to fit the desired outcome.
I learned that it was fairly standard procedure for officers in these jurisdictions to carry “throw down” weapons and to carry small bags of illicit drugs to plant in victim’s cars or personal effects during an arrest or search.
A minor infraction or just something an officer finds personally distasteful can make you an instant POS and subject you to some very distasteful and/or embarrassing time which might also cost a varying amount of money in attorney fees and etc.
I’m NOT saying every officer is like the above but there are enough of them out there to make me very nervous.

DISCLAMER: My opinions are worth precisely what you pay for them and are frequently wrong. Also, I don’t give a rats a$$ whether you agree with me or not. (So much for my New Year’s resolutions.)

Bill

[rayg]

Methinks rayg is devoid of concern for innocent people deprived of their lives for nothing. Yet, methinks (me could be wrong) he probably calls himself a Christian.

It's as I said, you most likely carry a personal grudge against law enforcement because of some personal incident with police you were involved in as you're are a little over board on your hate of them. Not normal. Either that or you are just a troll attempting to cause controversy. And especially that remark about me be not being a Christian, trying to make me feel bad, How juvenile. , Ray

[Dan Shapiro]

Nailed it Ray.

[clintonhater]

And especially that remark about me be not being a Christian, trying to make me feel bad, How juvenile. , Ray

If English is your native language, you ought to have understood that I said no such thing. If your hypocrisy--no alarm or concern, obviously, for these repeated unjustified killings--makes you, as a Christian, "feel bad," I'm not responsible.

By the way, if you posses the gift of psychoanalysis by internet, maybe you should think about going professional with that talent.

[rayg]

Just as I expected, a non answer.

[clintonhater]

Just as I expected, a non answer.

The best answer deserved by your nonsensical accusation.

[rayg]

Ah come on.... try to do better.....

[p246]

Boy that goes south in a hurry. How that guy got acquitted, just beyond me.

Armchair quarterbacks, whose opinion isn't worth a tinker's damn? More like members of the public who don't want to be on the receiving end of that kind of crap. Dash cams, body cams, cell cams, all point to the same thing--it's only going to get harder to bury bad shoots in the verbiage of police reports. Some municipalities will figure it out sooner than others.

Lots of guys here talk about having buddies on the nearby force, and have no problems whatsoever dealing with them. Well not everyone is that lucky, and not everyone has the foresight or the means to lay everything out nice and pretty so that an officer in a traffic stop doesn't feel even the slightest bit threatened. So what's the problem? Too many guns out there, making cops feel nervous? If that's the case, then the LEOs should say as much and make that part of the conversation.

27 Years, never fired my weapon in anger, fought hit bloody, dislocated a shoulder, but no gun. Partner shot a guy pointing rifle at him, I suppose he was suppose to let bad guy kill him first. You cherry pick the questionable shoots and scream it’s everywhere. A cop made a questionable shoot yesterday, with limited information and poor conditions. But by god we will not discuss the other 799,999 thousand that shot no one. Most officers will never discharge their handgun in a use of force enforcement, most officers head to work hoping to make someone’s day a little better.

[togor]

27 Years, never fired my weapon in anger, fought hit bloody, dislocated a shoulder, but no gun. Partner shot a guy pointing rifle at him, I suppose he was suppose to let bad guy kill him first. You cherry pick the questionable shoots and scream it’s everywhere. A cop made a questionable shoot yesterday, with limited information and poor conditions. But by god we will not discuss the other 799,999 thousand that shot no one. Most officers will never discharge their handgun in a use of force enforcement, most officers head to work hoping to make someone’s day a little better.

#1: I hope you keep your streak alive through your whole time, never having to discharge the weapon in the line of duty.

#2: Were all cops like you, then maybe there is very little to talk about.

#3: Is it 799,999:1? I suspect you are above the norm in your ability to keep your head in difficult situations. Maybe you don't think of yourself as exceptional, but maybe you are.

#4: With these videos, everyone who sees them feels saddened, but my impression is that some people also feel surprise, and some don't. Those in the business don't seem surprised. That's telling.

[clintonhater]

#4: With these videos, everyone who sees them feels saddened...

Untrue...as several of the above responses demonstrate.

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Partner shot a guy pointing rifle at him, I suppose he was suppose to let bad guy kill him first.

What ignorant BS. Do you understand the meaning of "UNARMED"? None of these notorious killings involved guns pointed at cops.

[p246]

#1: I hope you keep your streak alive through your whole time, never having to discharge the weapon in the line of duty.

#2: Were all cops like you, then maybe there is very little to talk about.

#3: Is it 799,999:1? I suspect you are above the norm in your ability to keep your head in difficult situations. Maybe you don't think of yourself as exceptional, but maybe you are.

#4: With these videos, everyone who sees them feels saddened, but my impression is that some people also feel surprise, and some don't. Those in the business don't seem surprised. That's telling.

Actually the bad folks imo have as much to do with my string then me. I react to them. I am fortunate to work at a good place. Lots of training, UOF simulator, quarterly ranges, DT instructors that push you, a good CIT program for all the mental heath issues we now deal with, nice gym, nice equipment in general. 2things I’d change, make shift work more family friendly and get the Star Trek phaser working with both stun and fry mode.

[rayg]

I don't think anyone, even police officers, would dispute that mistakes are made by police officers in certain situations. No one is perfect. But overall in terms of the vast overall numbers of incidents handled by law enforcement daily/yearly. the badly handled ones, or those that are disputed, are a very small percentage in terms of the overall calls handled. While many of those disputed situations are made in split second decisions, and are judged under those circumstances there is a small percentage that are definitely due to the officers error or mishandling of the situation. In most of these cases the officer faces judicial review or disciplinary action by the department. Of course, for those anti police people, for what ever their reason, we can only guess but I think most of us can. It's easy to seek out these very few wrongly made or disputed decisions as most are well published, and of course to promote them as normal every day bad police behavior when they are in reality very far and few from it. Ray