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[RED]

You told us Trump was a dealmaker, not a Republican or Democrat, and that this would be an advantage. Your reply above only proves my point from the other post--Trump is scared to do anything in the interest of governing the country that will break the spell with the yahoos that go to his rallies.
We know now that Trump is a win-lose guy, that he can't do win-win. Some of us saw it from the beginning. Compromise would kill the MAGA movement, so instead it will die slowly in its own excrement.

What a crock of crap. Trump is not afraid of anything and certainly not blowhards like you. Deals are give a little and get a little in return. You can't make deals with a rattlesnake that won't give anything back except venom.

That is all you and your BFF's have is hatred and venom. Not a single one of your lies have proven to be true. Not the collusion, not the firings of Sessions, and Tillerson, or any other of the garbage you garnish from liars like CNN, NBC, WAPO, and etc. (BTW the translations of your propaganda video are lies too.)

If you and others of your ilk had come together and tried to make America great again we would have seen what Trump could really do.

Oh, BTW. The U.S. is raking in taxes at a record rate. That is because the economy is exploding. According to you, tax revenue would drop, and the debt skyrocket. According to you back in 2016, the stock market would never recover if Tump won... just another bald faced lie.

Go away troll the 3 Stooges are the only ones here that believe any of your puke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGkQq3RJ7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOwSaSl_PGk

[S.A. Boggs]

Starting in February my family will have more disposable income, my daughter is getting a pay raise, my wife is getting a bonus. The company will be putting more into their 401[K]. This past year thanks to President Trump and a growing economy my wife got more benefits from the company, was not cut back in January as under the previous administration. This is the new positive reality that is working for us at the moment. Under Barry my electricity doubled, gasoline cost shot up, food shot up and our way of living went down. Now it is just the reverse in one short year things are looking better. As to illegal immigration, I can understand and sympathize with Pebbles. Many in the United States will lose what they have and need to start over, this is life. My family had to move twenty years ago due to economic necessity to improve our life and it worked. It wasn't easy, scary at times but it was necessary. The country does not own an illegal anything for the simple fact they do not belong here, regardless of how they came here. With DACA all Barry did was to provide the information where to make the arrests. Congress can pass all kinds of law, they are no good unless enforced and citizen's obey them. We have speed laws yet people break them on a daily basis, just drive on any highway. I see LEO's enforcing the laws and people have to pay a $ price for breaking the law. I don't speed so I don't pay it is that simple. I pull into a parking space I pay to use it, not hope that I don't get caught. Illegals do contribute to our society, there is no question in that. They also teach our society that any law breaking is good and that is plain wrong. Illegals have given us MS-13 and the deaths of citizen's, is that good? We could close our border tight in 24 hours by bringing troops home and placing them on the southern border. Of course the NSAWP would vote against that I suppose as being unnecessary. Either we have a Republic with laws and stability or a Democracy with disregard for law and anarchy, which do you want?
Sam

[togor]

Red I have my predictive test for Trump now. We'll see if I'm right or if I'm wrong. I predict that the "dealmaker-in-chief" will in fact follow his base, and not lead it. The movement needs enemies to sustain itself. Trump would rather add to that list of enemies than subtract from it by doing win-win deals with broad support outside the base.

So for example unless and until the unelected producers at Fox News can first adequately prepare the faithful for a DACA deal, it won't happen.

[Roadkingtrax]

He's a pretty poor populist if he cant be popular with more than 30%.

[Dan Shapiro]

He's a pretty poor populist if he cant be popular with more than 30%.

Actually, he's in good company. Think back to the American Revolution. A majority WERE NOT for leaving the Mother Country. 1/3 were. 1/3 weren't. And 1/3 just wanted to be left the hell alone.

[steelap]

Republicans have all three branches of government and presented the president with a bipartisan-ish deal he wanted, near the eve of his first year. Trump's little Goebbels Stephen Miller mucks up the deal and its someone else's fault? Trump could of had a win, but his handlers did another poor job with the alt-right agenda.

Tim,

Please review the rules of the Senate. Under cloture rules there must be 3/5 (currently 60) votes for legislation to go forward. republicans used this rule when they were in the minority; Democrats are using it now to shut down the government.

Your argument loses force when you make statements without remembering the facts.

have a great day!

"Life is Good!"

[steelap]

Border patrol already does this on US soil...north of the border.

And they should. Illegal is illegal - not "undocumented".

Unless you would like an undocumented interior designer (i.e. burglar) to visit your house.

[steelap]

Border patrol already does this on US soil...north of the border.

Just re-read this....

"...on US soil...north of the border." Are you saying the Border patrol should enforce US law south of the border, off US soil? Been there, done that. See "Wars and Border Conflicts with Mexico".

Or are you saying there is US soil south of the border? The Mexicans would be astounded to hear that.

Or did you just have a brain fuzz - Department of Redundancy Department - happens to me all the time. Too soon old, too late smart.

[Roadkingtrax]

Alex,
President had a deal (and stepped on his dick again), North of the border, see previous answer.

The president needs the middle to win again. Watch, he'll shift rhetoric in the 2018 run-up, and as he continues to campaign for his 2020.

Enjoy your day off!

[steelap]

Alex,
President had a deal (and stepped on his dick again.

According to Schumer and democrats they had a deal. I don't believe anything most democrats say.

Alex,
North of the border, see previous answer.

Tim,

Just trying to interject some humor - too many people on this forum get off on being rude and nasty.

Alex,

The president needs the middle to win again. Watch, he'll shift rhetoric in the 2018 run-up, and as he continues to campaign for his 2020.

Well, the Dems gave up on tying (spelling?) the CR to action on illegals. FOR NOW!

I agree - the President and many Republicans will have to appeal to the center of their party if they want reelection. That doesn't mean they will have to compromise on basic principles. The Republicans and the President (supporting the 2018 election) will also be able to run on great economy, tax cuts for most Americans (gee - not rich Californians or New Yorkers), low black and women unemployment rates, etc.

Alex, ... Enjoy your day off!

I'm at work; I wasn't furloughed. I haven't been furloughed in any government shutdown since I joined the Army in 1979, and the Civil Service in 1997. kept working as either military or funded civilian. Bummer, when I know that everyone furloughed will get back pay. (Wahhh!)

If the congress critters get off their a$$es we will all be back at work tomorrow - this is now an easy fix.

Have a great day!

[Roadkingtrax]

I'm at work; I wasn't furloughed. I haven't been furloughed in any government shutdown since I joined the Army in 1979, and the Civil Service in 1997. kept working as either military or funded civilian. Bummer, when I know that everyone furloughed will get back pay. (Wahhh!)

If the congress critters get of their a$$es we will all be back at work tomorrow - this is now an easy fix.

Have a great day!

On this we wholeheartedly agree. Divisiveness in any environment is unhealthy and wasted energy.

The USG peers onsite are running a skeleton crew, happy you were not affected.

[RED]

Red I have my predictive test for Trump now. We'll see if I'm right or if I'm wrong. I predict that the "dealmaker-in-chief" will in fact follow his base, and not lead it. The movement needs enemies to sustain itself. Trump would rather add to that list of enemies than subtract from it by doing win-win deals with broad support outside the base.

So for example unless and until the unelected producers at Fox News can first adequately prepare the faithful for a DACA deal, it won't happen.

So, it would seem you believe his "base," wants him to tweet and that's why he is doing it? Chucky Schumer just capitulated and his gov't shut down lasted about as long as a ice cream sandwich in Phoenix. A clear win for Trump.

Just FYI, I don't get the Fox News Channel, just ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS. If I watch TV at all it is old reruns or documentaries on Netflix or Amazon Prime.

[togor]

So, it would seem you believe his "base," wants him to tweet and that's why he is doing it? Chucky Schumer just capitulated and his gov't shut down lasted about as long as a ice cream sandwich in Phoenix. A clear win for Trump.

Just FYI, I don't get the Fox News Channel, just ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS. If I watch TV at all it is old reruns or documentaries on Netflix or Amazon Prime.

I still have my test that says he won't cross his base until the Ministry of Propaganda (Fox) has sufficiently prepared the faithful. DACA remains unresolved so victory celebrations remain premature. As for the Dems, you sometimes choose to probe your enemy's lines, see how and when he shoots back. So it's possible this was a scouting mission for the 2018 legislative campaign.

It pains me a little to say this Red but if you weren't such a Trump nut we might get on OK. Multiple times I've noted that you and I have stuff in common.

[Bill D]

Trump is what he is. He does things that make me crazy and other things that give me great joy. What Trump isn’t, is Hillary. She would give me no joy on firearms legislation, the economy, illegal immigration, reducing the size and scope of government and a number of other things that I hold near and dear to my heart.
I started my political life as a John Kennedy democrat. My parents were both staunch dems and party activists. Slowly, through the administrations of Kennedy, Johnson, and speeding up through Bill Clinton and Obama, my family discovered that our basic political tenants had been abandoned by the Democratic Party. While we sometimes disagree with (some) Republicans in Congress, we find ourselves in the Republican Camp mostly by default. I firmly believe that a large and growing number of folks (largely in “fly over” country) are finding themselves in the same boat.
Having said this, I realize that to argue ANYTHING POLITIC with these “progressives “ is absolutely pointless. They will staunchly and resolutely defend any point advanced by a fellow democrat unto death.
Culver’s “Jouster” used to be a great place to visit for information on firearms related topics and some good natured sparring on current events. No longer! It’s gotten downright mean on here anymore.

[Allen]

While we sometimes disagree with (some) Republicans in Congress, we find ourselves in the Republican Camp mostly by default. I firmly believe that a large and growing number of folks (largely in “fly over” country) are finding themselves in the same boat.

Democrats have become the socialist/communist party (what our largest wars have been fought over and now we have it here in America)

Moderates are democrats posing as Republicans to infiltrate the party. Better known as RINO's

Republicans have become what the democrats used to be

Conservatives are what the Republicans used to be