The difference steelap is that I bear Red no real emnity. It's just an internet discussion, after all. Yes, post 12 is more sauce than I like, and I can do better, but don't forget not so long ago I was wishing him a full recovery from a nasty flu virus with a pneumonia kicker. Red on the other hand has nothing unending hostility towards people he disagrees with, which usually means me, and doesn't care who sees it. I could be wrong, but my impression is that Red would choose to die a slow painful death before offering a kind word to someone on his "bad" list.
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now i dont personally care for togor, but there is a huge difference between what he posted up above, and the nasty stuff red has been posting for years.Comment
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I am not too sure what has caused the decline in the lumber industry. Up here there has been a similar loss of jobs in the lumber sector. I also do not know what subsidies the government has given, they have not been working. Our lumber industry has also gone down the toilet. What many up here point to is the fact that it is now allowed to export raw logs. I suspect that both our countries are suffering from shipping the raw logs overseas to cheap labour. Which is exactly why so many of us up here are opposed to NAFTA. We felt our jobs would go to the southern right to work states where labour is cheap. They did, then Mexico got into NAFTA and they kept going south.I hope he just walks away from NAFTA. The Pacific Northwest was full of thriving little lumber towns before NAFTA allowed Canadian lumber, subsidized by their government, to drive them out of business. My little town was busy place with seven mills when I moved here 25 years ago. Only one is left and supporting businesses have gone under too. The loss of tax base leaves streets full of potholes and a terrible water system. NAFTA was a horrible deal for the U.S. and dumping it would be good.
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Ken I am curious, what would you propose as Ross Perot would say, I am all ears!I am not too sure what has caused the decline in the lumber industry. Up here there has been a similar loss of jobs in the lumber sector. I also do not know what subsidies the government has given, they have not been working. Our lumber industry has also gone down the toilet. What many up here point to is the fact that it is now allowed to export raw logs. I suspect that both our countries are suffering from shipping the raw logs overseas to cheap labour. Which is exactly why so many of us up here are opposed to NAFTA. We felt our jobs would go to the southern right to work states where labour is cheap. They did, then Mexico got into NAFTA and they kept going south.
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Hi Sam,
Although I must admit my ignorance regarding international trade, I think the following.
1) It maybe a good idea to have a common currency between our countries. If the rate of exchanges goes up 1% in a day this equated to 365% per year. It is only those who manipulate the currency market that profit. Wealth must be created and the currency traders create no wealth except for themselves. This would also make the issues more transparent and hopefully fairer.
2) One thing I do know as a business man it that any deal which is not good for all parties is doomed to fail.
3) Remove the trade issues from the politicians. It makes us feel good when our leaders take a hard line, this plays to our patriotism. Rah, Rah !!!!!!
4) Have international trade issues dealt with by professionals in this field, not a bunch of politicians whose prime concern is and always will be in getting re-elected.
5) Or the US could simply buy Canada, say for 10 millions for each citizen (in American dollars of course).
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Ken, your country has enough problems just with the weather why saddle yourself with Nancy and Chuckie.Hi Sam,
Although I must admit my ignorance regarding international trade, I think the following.
1) It maybe a good idea to have a common currency between our countries. If the rate of exchanges goes up 1% in a day this equated to 365% per year. It is only those who manipulate the currency market that profit. Wealth must be created and the currency traders create no wealth except for themselves. This would also make the issues more transparent and hopefully fairer.
2) One thing I do know as a business man it that any deal which is not good for all parties is doomed to fail.
3) Remove the trade issues from the politicians. It makes us feel good when our leaders take a hard line, this plays to our patriotism. Rah, Rah !!!!!!
4) Have international trade issues dealt with by professionals in this field, not a bunch of politicians whose prime concern is and always will be in getting re-elected.
5) Or the US could simply buy Canada, say for 10 millions for each citizen (in American dollars of course).
KTK
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"The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. UllmanComment
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I think that you might want to look at the data in this website https://www.thebalance.com/advantages-of-nafta-3306271
According to the website, between 1993-2015, trade between the three members quadrupled from $297 billion to $1.14 trillion, prices were reduced, and 5 million new jobs were created in the USA.Comment
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Fast food doesn't count!I think that you might want to look at the data in this website https://www.thebalance.com/advantages-of-nafta-3306271
According to the website, between 1993-2015, trade between the three members quadrupled from $297 billion to $1.14 trillion, prices were reduced, and 5 million new jobs were created in the USA.
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