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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #16
    Originally posted by Major Tom
    Arming teachers is a bad idea even if they get training. They will freeze and probably injure an innocent person. I recall the first time (in 'Nam) when a armed gook came at us. All the newbies froze and they had the best training the Army could give them.
    I wish I had a crystal ball!

    No one knows how someone else will react under stress. But we DO know that many and many an armed citizen has acted correctly and decisively. So in any armed group, we can feel reasonably sure some of them will react properly.

    BTW -- in two combat tours, I never saw newbies freeze under fire.

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #17
      For those who could get a clear shot and not freeze:

      "better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #18
        Originally posted by Allen
        For those who could get a clear shot and not freeze:

        "better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it".
        That's correct.

        Also we need to remember -- extreme situations call for extreme measures. When your life is on the line, or the lives of those children you are responsible for, no one can make your decisions for you. It is not for people sitting in comfortable chairs behind computers to decide what SOMEONE ELSE will have when the chips are down.

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        • Sandpebble
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 2196

          #19
          Lets look at something I've allready mentioned.... court houses. A few years ago we had a problem with shootings/bombings or whatever in our court houses.

          Now it seems to me that there has always been a very pronounced armed police presence in court houses and I have to ask....

          .... did that armed presence prove to be a deterrent ? ... IT DID NOT ..... and thats how we ended up with emptying our pockets and walking through metal detctors to enter a court building .

          Did that work...? well it would appear that it in fact did. With the elimination of possible gun presence ... we eliminated the use of guns in a court room...

          Now we have a President that's likely never held a gun in his hands in his life touting the need to arm our teachers .... because he thinks that will get praise from the base...and he's right... unfortunately.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #20
            Originally posted by Sandpebble
            Lets look at something I've allready mentioned.... court houses. A few years ago we had a problem with shootings/bombings or whatever in our court houses.

            Now it seems to me that there has always been a very pronounced armed police presence in court houses and I have to ask....

            .... did that armed presence prove to be a deterrent ? ... IT DID NOT ..... and thats how we ended up with emptying our pockets and walking through metal detctors to enter a court building .

            Did that work...? well it would appear that it in fact did. With the elimination of possible gun presence ... we eliminated the use of guns in a court room...

            Now we have a President that's likely never held a gun in his hands in his life touting the need to arm our teachers .... because he thinks that will get praise from the base...and he's right... unfortunately.
            Take away from the little children backpacks, have the buses get to school early for going thru a metal detector and tell the kids if the detector goes off an armed presence will look them over. Sandpebble is right on this train of thought, I know the deputies at the court house and get searched and I always set off the alarm due to the metal in me. Heck, the judges have to do the same thing, no walk thru for anyone except security. I listened to Governor Scott and he has some great ideas that are not too far out of line. In this day and age raising the bar to 21 to purchase is now needed in our pitifully ill society. Rights without responsibility is not a good idea.
            Sam

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