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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    NK - USA Summit?

    Will it come off? Should it?

    I'll say that it won't happen anytime soon, and that this is probably for the best since a misfire could affect Japan and SK, both important countries to our economy.
  • bruce
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3759

    #2
    President Trump is in the driver's seat. If he wants it to happen, it will happen. As things now stand, it is entirely in his hands. Given past matters, this may or may not be a good thing. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.
    " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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    • kickshot7
      Member
      • Jan 2017
      • 60

      #3
      i personally dont want it to happen, someone needs to teach bad-hair-cut boy a lesson

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Originally posted by kickshot7
        i personally dont want it to happen, someone needs to teach bad-hair-cut boy a lesson
        Kim or Trump?
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • m1ashooter
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 3220

          #5
          It is better to talk then fight. If you have to fight then fight hard. I can see no harm in actually meeting with the leader of North Korea. I mean UN could pound on the table and threaten or sit there thinking he is cunning and trying to pull a fast one or actually might wish for some change in the situation. Its been a SNAFU'd situation since the cease fire was signed.
          To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            The summit itself is a far bigger propaganda victory for NK than the USA. Unless the USA gets something of equal value in exchange up front, something that can't be undone later, it's already advantage-NK out of the gate. No way that goes over well in DC. This is why it's better to leave talk to underlings for awhile to flesh things out first.

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            • clintonhater
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 5220

              #7
              Originally posted by kickshot7
              i personally dont want it to happen, someone needs to teach bad-hair-cut boy a lesson
              Time for that was before he got the bomb.

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              • kickshot7
                Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 60

                #8
                Originally posted by clintonhater
                Time for that was before he got the bomb.
                His bomb does work, his country is in debt.... i guess its time to play Nice.

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                • Mark in Ottawa
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1744

                  #9
                  I believe that Mr Trump is being played by Kim. He wants to have a meeting to demonstrate to the world that with his nuclear bombs, he is now equal to anyone, particularly the USA. The ultimate mistake would be for Mr Trump to go to North Korea. Kim would describe this to his people as America now being a supplicant to a powerful N. Korea and was coming on bended knee. Any meeting should be held in Washington. One interesting problem is that the Kims never go anywhere by air. They are afraid that somebody would shoot their plane down or sabotage it. I understand that when his father went to Moscow, he traveled by train for a week rather than fly.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
                    I believe that Mr Trump is being played by Kim. He wants to have a meeting to demonstrate to the world that with his nuclear bombs, he is now equal to anyone, particularly the USA. The ultimate mistake would be for Mr Trump to go to North Korea. Kim would describe this to his people as America now being a supplicant to a powerful N. Korea and was coming on bended knee. Any meeting should be held in Washington. One interesting problem is that the Kims never go anywhere by air. They are afraid that somebody would shoot their plane down or sabotage it. I understand that when his father went to Moscow, he traveled by train for a week rather than fly.
                    So buy him a train ticket from Pyongyang to Washington, DC.
                    Last edited by Vern Humphrey; 03-10-2018, 05:06.

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                    • RED
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mark in Ottawa
                      I believe that Mr Trump is being played by Kim. He wants to have a meeting to demonstrate to the world that with his nuclear bombs, he is now equal to anyone, particularly the USA. The ultimate mistake would be for Mr Trump to go to North Korea. Kim would describe this to his people as America now being a supplicant to a powerful N. Korea and was coming on bended knee. Any meeting should be held in Washington. One interesting problem is that the Kims never go anywhere by air. They are afraid that somebody would shoot their plane down or sabotage it. I understand that when his father went to Moscow, he traveled by train for a week rather than fly.
                      Ah you have things in reverse... If the meeting happens, Kim will be like the school kid called to the Principals office. Sure, he may try to pull some shenanigans... for example, if in the middle of the meeting, Kim physically slaps Trump...

                      Or, better yet, what if Trump punches Kim in the nose? Either way it is a win, win, for Trump. He hasn't promised Kim diddly squat, while Kim has promised no more nuke tests or rocket launches in the meantime.

                      We will have to wait and see but my gut tells me Trump, the deal maker, will prevail and is ahead in this game.

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                      • JB White
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13371

                        #12
                        Hold the summit in Moscow. Putin can blame a resurgence by Chechen rebels when his train blows sky high....his plane is shot down....his boat is torpedoed..
                        If his car runs off a bridge he can blame the Kennedys.
                        Half a billion bucks and a bottle of Woodford Reserve should do the trick.
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                        • leftyo

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          The summit itself is a far bigger propaganda victory for NK than the USA. Unless the USA gets something of equal value in exchange up front, something that can't be undone later, it's already advantage-NK out of the gate. No way that goes over well in DC. This is why it's better to leave talk to underlings for awhile to flesh things out first.
                          i dont see it as a victory for either side. for 65 years its been a sad failure on both sides. i speak as someone has has been right there on the edge of N Korean waters and played tag with their MIG's. its been a long drawn out game of BS, and even if someone needs to eat some crow, it needs to be dealt with before someone has a bad day and tons of people die because of it. of ocurse we could make this a n korean nuke free zone, and just hang signs on the border stating that no north korean nukes will be allowed in. should work right?

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                          • JB White
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13371

                            #14
                            Just remember..technically we are still at war with NK. The last thing we agreed upon was just a ceasefire. Spoiled totally rotten Bad-haircut-boy is itching to play with the nasty toys he inherited. Anything can be called an act of aggression as far as he's concerned. The kid is a sicko.
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                            **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                            • rkohut
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1115

                              #15
                              If anyone can pull off the meeting and get sucessful results, it would be Trump. He's more saavy than most people want to believe as he operates in politically uncovential ways.
                              I think Trump has got China to put immense pressure on NK.
                              Still I'll believe it only when I see it.

                              Here's a potentially germane story;
                              Former NBA star Dennis Rodman presents the book The Art of the Deal to North Korea's Sports Minister Kim Il Guk last June in Pyongyang, North Korea.
                              Until this week, Rodman was believed to be the only person who had met both Kim and the U.S. president.



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