Why do people lie just to be in the news?

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Why do people lie just to be in the news?

    Here is a typical lie that has gone "viral," on the internet... http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/20...m-walmart.html

    These folks made up this story and are laughing their butts off because so many people fell for it. Anybody with grocery experience knows what a store reset involves. Most good stores do this 2 to 4 times per year. The shelves are emptied, cleaned, and departments moved. Then there are complete remodels that happen every 4 - 5 years where the store is completely redone and usually enlarged. The Wal Mart in the little MO town I lived in for 21 years was remodeled in 1998, moved to a bigger store in 2002, and remodeled again in 2015.

    Then, there are changes in packaging and labeling that are done by the manufacturer (often Gov't required). A 21 year old box or package would stand out like a sore thumb! Stockers, managers and manufacturer's reps aren't stupid and a 21 year old package would be worn threadbare just from handling.

    Lying is the new gotcha that has overtaken common sense and personal integrity.
  • leftyo

    #2
    some people are born liars!

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      Reminds me of Dan Rather, who stridently accused George W Bush of "desertion" and "AWOL." It was a lie and he knew it.

      Those offenses are MILITARY offenses. If you're not subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you can't commit them, even if you try. Article 2 of the UCMJ lists those subject to the code and specifically EXEMPTS members of the Arm and Air National Guard, unless called into Federal service.

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      • JB White
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 13371

        #4
        Just searched Quaker Oats label changes. At least 4 major changes not counting minor ones. Some remained pretty close as far as product recognition. Quite a difference over 21 years.
        A single package would stand out like a sore thumb next to the others. So, unless a forgotten case atop a shelf was opened and stocked.... Could have been the store. Maybe the the local distribution center.
        Could be just another "mouse in the bottle" hoax too.
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        **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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        • steelap
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 190

          #5
          Likely trying to sue WalMart and/or Pepsi (parent company of Quaker Oats).

          Found the box at a flea market and decided to make some money.

          So the bar code on the Quaker Oats label didn't change in 21 years? Maybe so.

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          • blackhawknj
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3754

            #6
            Dan Rather tried to pass himself off as a "Marine"-he enlisted but received a Medical Discharge in Basic.

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            • blackhawk2
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 471

              #7
              Red, excellent question....Why did Bozo have to lie with his made up trade claims on Canada?...regards....alex

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              • Sandpebble
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 2196

                #8
                that is a very good... and appropriate question there blackhawk

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                • RED
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11689

                  #9
                  Well moron why don't you ask our friends from Canada about that? Here are the numbers... not from CNN, not from MSNBC, and not from Stooges but straight from the Canadian Government. You might want to look up the difference between a - (a minus sign) and a + (and that is a plus sign).

                  Read it and weep as you take your size 14 1/2 hoof out of your mouth.


                  Last edited by RED; 03-16-2018, 09:12.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Hi Red,

                    Your link was out of action, so I found this one from the US government

                    U.S.-Canada Trade Facts U.S. goods and private services trade with Canada totaled $707 billion in 2012 (latest data available). Exports totaled $354 billion; Imports totaled $354 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $40 million in 2012.


                    It shows a trade surplus in goods and services with Canada. There is a deficit in goods only, which is more than made up for when services are factored in. The US has a highly developed service sector. People here know how to do things, and get hired by foreigners for their expertise.

                    Trump apparently was made aware of this after his meeting with Trudeau, but thinks it is funny nonetheless. Here in Season 2 the writers are pretty much off-leash, developing a lot of new "wild and crazy" plot lines. Who knows, maybe we'll have a 25th-Amendment cliff-hanger at some point. That would make for great ratings, right?

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                    • RED
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Twist and turn lie and burn… So, you didn’t like my link, here is another one:

                      International merchandise trade data grouped by Principal Trading Partners (PTP). Users have the option of selecting Imports, Exports, or Trade Balance. Data are unadjusted and seasonally adjusted, and are on a Customs and Balance of Payments basis.


                      It has the look of being a real Canadian product to me and it lists Canada’s imports and exports from various countries and the U.S. at the top of the list… Not once from 2012 thru 2017 did Canada import more from the USA than it exported to them. Personally, I don't care. Canada is getting business done, making good use of NAFTA (their exports to the USA have grown 200%), and taking care of their own interests which is exactly what Trump is trying to do for the USA.

                      You can quote your buds at the CBO, CNN, or Pravda, you can call Trump a Bozo, a moron, and a liar but all of all your hate and propaganda is some day going to come back and bite your butt. Just wait until Hillary becomes President, your buddy Comey is the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS, and a Chelsea (either Manning or Mezinsky) becomes SECDEF then you can giggle silly ass off.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Red, again, everyone agrees that there is a deficit in goods, and a surplus in services from the US perspective in US-Canada Trade, and that the net of the two is a Goods+Services trade surplus with Canada. That is, Canada's deficit in services trade with us exceeds our deficit in goods trade with them. Your link is explicit about being goods only, meaning services are excluded.

                        Why do you insist on ignoring services? I mean, when you take your car in, don't they usually charge you for parts and labor? So that's real money leaving your hand for services rendered, is it not? Services deserve to be counted too.
                        Last edited by togor; 03-17-2018, 05:33.

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                        • RED
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11689

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Red, again, everyone agrees that there is a deficit in goods, and a surplus in services from the US perspective in US-Canada Trade, and that the net of the two is a Goods+Services trade surplus with Canada. That is, Canada's deficit in services trade with us exceeds our deficit in goods trade with them.

                          Why do you insist on ignoring services? I mean, when you take your car in, don't they usually charge you for parts and labor? So that's real money leaving your hand for services rendered, is it not? Services deserve to be counted too.
                          More twist and turn... Trade is trade whether goods or service it is measured in dollars. In 2017, Canada exported $411,087.5 millions to the U.S. They imported $370,548.3 from the USA, and you are telling me that is a deficit???

                          I mean, when you take your car in, don't they usually charge you for parts and labor?
                          When I get the bill and pay up, it don't matter if the bill is $20 for parts and the labor is $200, I still have to pay $220. BTW, I just paid $150 to have a key made for my car and I was pissed about it. It didn't make a bit of difference how much the labor was and how much the key blank cost it was still $150 and a freaking ripoff.

                          Red, again, everyone agrees that there is a deficit in goods, and a surplus in services from the US perspective in US-Canada Trade,
                          Then why are your Stooges calling Trump a liar when he pointed that fact out.
                          Last edited by RED; 03-17-2018, 06:07.

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Exactly! Goods and services both! And yes, highway robbery for those new-fangled car key fobs!

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Red. Your link is goods only (in Canadian dollars). Mine shows goods plus services in US dollars). Check them yourself. If you're saying I'm lying, then I'd ask you to explicitly lay out the lie, having read the material on both web sites. As things stand US currently running a trade surplus with our friends in the Great White North.

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