An interesting study and a startling conclusion

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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    An interesting study and a startling conclusion

    Why is their so much racial hatred in Germany? The startling conclusion is mind boggling in it's simplicity... I would never thought that anybody would have the guts to say this in the first place and that it would ever make news in the second place. Here's the link, and it is summarized in the last sentence.

    Israeli author David Ranan spent a year speaking to Muslims in Germany about anti-Semitism, with the goal of understanding prejudices and their root causes. He has transformed his findings into a book that draws surprising conclusions about the extent of the problem.
  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #2
    How can one integrate when one foot is in each world? I have read of illegals here in the U.S. who have been here for years and do not speak the language...why?
    Sam

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #3
      There can't be "so much" when the fomenter of the raghead invasion, that bleeding-heart bitch Merkel, was just reelected. The German media is as left-wing as CNN--anybody who questions "is this good for our country" is automatically labeled a Nazi & viciously attacked by the press. 70+ yrs of left-wing indoctrination in Germany's public schools has erased--and this was deliberate--any sense of cultural pride in most Germans. Germans who weren't born when Hitler was alive are lectured from grade school that it's their personal duty to "atone" for Nazi crimes, and one way of doing that is by welcoming the raghead rabble, however disastrous the consequences.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #4
        Let me point out that Arabs ARE Semites.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #5
          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
          Let me point out that Arabs ARE Semites.
          Of course, but "anti-Semitic" has always meant "anti-Jew" only--either out of ignorance, or more likely, an attempt to conceal true motives.

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          • blackhawknj
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3754

            #6
            Those "Muslim Country" refugees move to those Western European countries because they receive lavish welfare benefits that provide a comfortable standard of living, they are not seeking job opportunities. They have lots of leisure time to pursue their prejudices.
            Integrate-why should they bother ?
            Last edited by blackhawknj; 04-01-2018, 02:33.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              West Germany brought in Turks to work during their economic miracle period.

              CH, I have a 11-June-44 copy of "The Oversea Kid", a 4 page newpaper published by Goebbels' ministry for US POWs. That one contains an op-ed piece on how it fell to Germany to defend Europe from the uncultured hordes about to invade France. This as those same Germans were rapaciously looting and enslaving every corner of Europe within reach.

              So don't waste your feelings of nostalgia on Germany. If they've turned away from that path to something newer, then more for the better.

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                So don't waste your feelings of nostalgia on Germany. If they've turned away from that path to something newer, then more for the better.
                One-World socialism, devoid of national pride & cultural traditions? Many wish that for this country as well.

                The only error in your 1944 newspaper is that its prognostication for Europe's future was premature.

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                • RED
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11689

                  #9
                  Let me point out that Arabs ARE Semites.
                  What has that got to do with anything? Most Muslims are not Arabs... Semites are Semites because, by definition, of the language they speak and not their religious beliefs. There are Christian Arabs that speak a Semitic language and share a Semitic heritage. CH is right. A anti Semite is anti Jewish

                  http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-a...s-too-fallacy/
                  Last edited by RED; 04-01-2018, 05:31.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by clintonhater
                    One-World socialism, devoid of national pride & cultural traditions? Many wish that for this country as well.

                    The only error in your 1944 newspaper is that its prognostication for Europe's future was premature.
                    The people who came out on the winning side of our last big global display of national pride concluded that we needed to find less violent ways of finding expression for such impulses. Destruction now is even more cost-effective, so their determination seems prescient.

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                    • RED
                      Very Senior Member - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11689

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      The people who came out on the winning side of our last big global display of national pride concluded that we needed to find less violent ways of finding expression for such impulses. Destruction now is even more cost-effective, so their determination seems prescient.
                      Ahhh and so it goes... You are a Nazi if you display pride for your country.

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        The people who came out on the winning side of our last big global display of national pride concluded that we needed to find less violent ways of finding expression for such impulses.
                        Another straw-man argument: pride in one's culture & traditions = aggression toward one's neighbors.

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                        Originally posted by RED
                        Ahhh and so it goes... You are a Nazi if you display pride for your country.
                        In today's Germany, so far as Merkel & the ruling One-World elite is concerned, that's it EXACTLY!

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          Another straw-man argument: pride in one's culture & traditions = aggression toward one's neighbors.
                          In Europe? No straw man. That's absolutely how it is. A century ago, dark-skinned colonials who had been taught to believe in the superiority of their European masters saw up close the butchery of the front in Belgium and France, and returned home with the scales gone from their eyes. Since 1945, overt expressions of European national pride have best been saved for the soccer field, and for the most part Europe has known peace as a result. We know how your experiment ends, we don't need to run it again.

                          The funny thing is that if you went to Europe today, I doubt you'd even like them. For one thing, they'd look at you as an American who likes Trump and think you're crazy or stupid. I really think you should save your feelings of nostalgia for something more worthwhile than a fantasy view of a Europa that never actually existed or will exist.

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                          • clintonhater
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 5220

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            A century ago, dark-skinned colonials who had been taught to believe in the superiority of their European masters saw up close the butchery of the front in Belgium and France, and returned home with the scales gone from their eyes.
                            Ah, yes, we can all admire what the natives have done with the formerly well-governed & efficiently-organized territories handed over to them on a silver platter by their colonial masters: interminable civil wars, like Ruanda, Sudan, Congo, etc., massive corruption, starvation brought on by mis-management of the economy...and just this AM, heard notice of a memorial service being held today for the last male White Rhino: a fitting tribute to black home-rule!

                            The funny thing is that if you went to Europe today, I doubt you'd even like them. For one thing, they'd look at you as an American who likes Trump and think you're crazy or stupid. I really think you should save your feelings of nostalgia for something more worthwhile than a fantasy view of a Europa that never actually existed or will exist.
                            Well, Trump is extremely popular in Poland & Hungary, maybe now Italy, countries that have thrown off the yoke of the ruling liberal elite (the same folks who awarded Obama the Nobel Prize for...what was it?) But you're right that I'd hate Europeans like Merkel-supporters, or the One-Worlders destroying Sweden. You're very ignorant, however, if you don't know there's a minority of un-brain-washed Europeans even in such a left-wing dream as Sweden who are bravely resisting the deliberate destruction of their national cultures by the European Union. You hear very little about them, because the European media (just as the media does of course in this country) suppresses mention of them as much as possible, or when forced to acknowledge them, dismisses them as White Supremists, Fascists & Nazis.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              All of this hand-wringing over destruction of culture, but only European culture. Non-European cultures in say Africa or North America that got flattened by the Europeans, nary a sympathetic word for them issues forth from you. Wish it all you want, but it's never going to be 1890 again, and you're never going to be young again, or live in a country where the advantages are stacked as they were 50 years ago.

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