More proof tax cuts work...

[Allen]

This thread reminds me of all those frog faced democrats at Trumps state of the union address.

Hell no, we don't want any tax cuts, border security, improvements to the economy, reduced unemployment, getting rid of DACA, improvements to our infrastructure, increased benefits for our veterans and increased military spending. We need that money to buy votes from the minorities and illegals.

[S.A. Boggs]

OK ... heres the Macro. The building boom came about because of the large amount of people who brought their money here to build a house , or commercial investments, from somewhere else .

I can only assume that things were doing better elsewhere if all these new people to Florida could afford to come and do this .

First off, you are only using a part of Florida, 2nd if using the whole state that is only 1/50th of the whole equation. The people moving in you have no way of knowing their place of origin prior to relocation. Could some of the people be from say Canada for winter relocation or from over the pond? Your reasoning is not valid without more empirical evidence. Can you provide empirical congruent financial evidence to back up your assertion?
Sam

[Allen]

Re: Budget cuts. Will say, if cuts are to be made, they should be made across the board at the exact same rate. If a cut is to be made to SS, Medicare, etc., then cut everything else by the same percentage. That's about the only way people are going to accept it. Otherwise, it won't get out the starting gate. But, you can't cut your way out of a deficit. At some point, taxes will have to be increased. That will be lots of fun for which ever party gets the job. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

Clinton balanced the budget by shutting off military spending for 8 years. Maybe Trump could do the same by cutting off foreign aid, welfare, planed parenthood and countless other BS programs. He has already made cuts at the UN and the global warming farce. Running the illegals back home will also save many billions.

[S.A. Boggs]

It is really astounding as to the amount of American money that is funneled back to their home nations. With the illegals gone as well as the "temporaries" a large drain on my nation will be stopped.
Sam

[Sandpebble]

It is really astounding as to the amount of American money that is funneled back to their home nations. With the illegals gone as well as the "temporaries" a large drain on my nation will be stopped.
Sam

A large drain you say ... here in Florida the masses that have been flocking here are in large need of services . With out even advertising I am being contacted by property managers from as far away as 40 miles asking I tender bids. Great opportunity to grow a business right? ...

Not going to be growing, quite the opposite ... in fact this week we've had to tell two clients we can't help them anymore . And we certainly aren't the only service industry business around here to do so..... we can't hire anybody . A constant advertising for 6 weeks has brought us an endless stream of emails in response, most responding between the hours of 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. with less than 10 percent that actually show for an interview. Seems most will take a Buger flip job for $9 an hour over a hands dirty job for $ 15 an hour.... mostly because they are still living with Mom and Dad .

This weeks 10% was a woman who doesn't want to work Mondays or Fridays, a young man who doesn't want to work Mondays or Wednesdays , a young man who listed his home address that turns out to be a Dominoes Pizza. A local hiring agency informed us that they likely can't help as most... most... of the people they call to send out to a job don't show up .

We have to pay for background checks on employees to maintain one of our contracts..... costing me a fortune and to no avail. The last Latina girl we had was from Peru. She worked 20 hours for me, and did private jobs cleaning condos . She was working 32 - 35 hours a week and pulling in $650 a week...... didn't even speak English. Yet every person under 30 on my street is living with their parents and working part time at a buger place or big box store....

When we do get a winner lately they are offended when I tell them they can't play with their phone while working .

So... who really is the large drain to your country Sam?

[S.A. Boggs]

A large drain you say ... here in Florida the masses that have been flocking here are in large need of services . With out even advertising I am being contacted by property managers from as far away as 40 miles asking I tender bids. Great opportunity to grow a business right? ...

Not going to be growing, quite the opposite ... in fact this week we've had to tell two clients we can't help them anymore . And we certainly aren't the only service industry business around here to do so..... we can't hire anybody . A constant advertising for 6 weeks has brought us an endless stream of emails in response, most responding between the hours of 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. with less than 10 percent that actually show for an interview. Seems most will take a Buger flip job for $9 an hour over a hands dirty job for $ 15 an hour.... mostly because they are still living with Mom and Dad .

This weeks 10% was a woman who doesn't want to work Mondays or Fridays, a young man who doesn't want to work Mondays or Wednesdays , a young man who listed his home address that turns out to be a Dominoes Pizza. A local hiring agency informed us that they likely can't help as most... most... of the people they call to send out to a job don't show up .

We have to pay for background checks on employees to maintain one of our contracts..... costing me a fortune and to no avail. The last Latina girl we had was from Peru. She worked 20 hours for me, and did private jobs cleaning condos . She was working 32 - 35 hours a week and pulling in $650 a week...... didn't even speak English. Yet every person under 30 on my street is living with their parents and working part time at a buger place or big box store....

When we do get a winner lately they are offended when I tell them they can't play with their phone while working .

So... who really is the large drain to your country Sam?

Yours is not the only one in need to hire people so quit complaining. @ the clinic I worked @ we had two psychiatrists position open @ the rate of $100.00 per hour to start, continuing education credits, fantastic benefits yet to this day these two positions go unfilled. Yes, money going out of my country is a drain on my economy period. When government starts to cut back on paying people not to work then perhaps you can gain people to work. The main focus that I made of my job was to get people to go back to work or instill a work ethic in them...might as well have been a dentist for chickens. Government then and now made work unprofitable with "free" housing, healthcare, clothing, transportation, child care the list goes on. By the way, with your last statement why are you attaching negative family of origin issues to our country with transference ideation?
Sam

[togor]

Sam, would you have fruits and vegetables go unpicked, perhaps unplanted, to avoid guest workers the opportunity to send wages home? Every time money changes hands, it adds to the economy.

[leftyo]

Sam, would you have fruits and vegetables go unpicked, perhaps unplanted, to avoid guest workers the opportunity to send wages home? Every time money changes hands, it adds to the economy.

so every time they wire money back home it adds to the economy? interesting!

[dryheat]

Who'll pick the lettuce? Screw the lettuce. The lettuce from Yuma, AZ has sickened people all over the U.S. with E. coli this month and nearly killed a little girl locally. I guess it's too far to walk to the Porta-John. The money doesn't add to the economy if it goes to Honduras. Tomorrow, US post service letter carriers all over the country are picking up food to "feed the hungry". That means Mexicans for the most part. St. Marys food bank has warehouses the size of airplane hangers to feed the...ah..hungry. Yes, there are Americans who need food, but a lot of it is the National Chow Hall for our "guest workers". That doesn't cost me much since do-gooders volunteer for most of it. "We will need to increase taxes"? Why? So illegals can get free immunizations for their kids so they don't bring TB to school? For drug rehab for people so stupid they don't know that heroin is kind of bad for you? There's a million things that we don't "need" to blow money on. We could have gold covered chocolate for dessert if we kept our money in our pockets.

[S.A. Boggs]

Sam, would you have fruits and vegetables go unpicked, perhaps unplanted, to avoid guest workers the opportunity to send wages home? Every time money changes hands, it adds to the economy.

I have no problem with a guest worker program, illegals and TPS are not guests nor intended to. Illegals are criminal due to having broken our immigration law regardless of their need. TPS was not intended to be permeant and the plan was for them to go back to their county ASAP. Previous administration neglected to do their job, now Trump is doing the job he was hired to do...clean house.
Sam

[Allen]

By eliminating or greatly reducing welfare these jobs that nobody seems to want would be in demand and none would be left over for guest workers. Less democrat voters coming in to our country, less green card violations, less illegals w/o the need of a wall. Fewer illegals protesting their "rights", many of which have signs made for them because they don't speak our language.

[milboltnut]

"guest worker" program...

whats that? a new politically correct term for people on welfare?

[Allen]

No, it's a liberal term for Mexicans mostly coming in to work the fields harvesting crops and other jobs that Americans don't want to do because the government pays them not to work. They are alleged to have green cards or visa's for the temporary stay but of course never go home after entering our country.

[togor]

so every time they wire money back home it adds to the economy? interesting!

Not what I meant. If the veggies aren't planted and picked, no commerce in fertilizer or foodstuffs. No trucking, no grocery trade. The pickers are but one link in the chain.

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No, it's a liberal term for Mexicans mostly coming in to work the fields harvesting crops and other jobs that Americans don't want to do because the government pays them not to work. They are alleged to have green cards or visa's for the temporary stay but of course never go home after entering our country.

Like Allen who could be earning money picking but instead stays home and collects government payments.

[Vern Humphrey]

Why is Social Security and Medicare since [mu understanding] these are not entitlements but paid for with taxes assessed on this program. Majority paid into SS and I now pay for the medical, why include in other program as I feel t his is a separate entity.
Sam

You are correct Sam. Medicare and Social Security are paid for by the FICA tax. FICA = Federal Insurance Contribution Act. You paid for your Social Security and Medicare -- just like you paid for your life insurance, homeowner's insurance and so on.

The problem is, Congress has plundered Medicare and Social Security, used the money to buy votes and now OUR insurance is running out.