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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #16
    People who say Social Security pays people far more than they contribute, fail to understand the time value of money. That dollar you paid into Social Security when you were in your late teens if invested in a fair-to-middlin' mutual fund would be worth over $100 when you reach retirement age.

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    • blackhawknj
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 3754

      #17
      As I once heard NJ's Senator Bill Bradley-D-tell a constituent:
      "Social Security is an income transfer program and nothing else." Insurance ?-where's your policy? The government determines what you will get, when you get it-if you get it. Survivor benefits-limited to narrow government determined categories. If you don't live to collect it, your money goes back into the pool.
      My experience with government provided/run healthcare is limited to the military. 10% of the people will get 90% of the benefits. The people with bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles benefit the most.
      Last edited by blackhawknj; 06-09-2018, 12:10.

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      • Vern Humphrey
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 15875

        #18
        Originally posted by blackhawknj
        As I once heard NJ's Senator Bill Bradley-D-tell a constituent:
        "Social Security is an income transfer program and nothing else." Insurance ?-where's your policy? The government determines what you will get, when you get it-if you get it. Survivor benefits-limited to narrow government determined categories. If you don't live to collect it, your money goes back into the pool.
        My experience with government provided/run healthcare is limited to the military. 10% of the people will get 90% of the benefits. The people with bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles benefit the most.
        Legally, Social Security is old age insurance. It is paid for through the FICA tax -- that stands for Federal Insurance Contribution Act.


        Of course, since it's run by the government, it was never managed along sound fiscal lines -- it became a slush fund for politicians seeking to increase their power by buying votes.


        One of the reasons health insurance is so expensive these days is the government requirement to cover pre-existing conditions. That's like a law requiring you to raise in a poker game when you know your opponent has a royal flush. As you say, Obamacare is a system to penalize the healthy for the benefit of those people with bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #19
          Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
          The irony if that statement.
          Can you not formulate a complete sentence ?

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #20
            Originally posted by dogtag
            Can you not formulate a complete sentence ?
            Can you not, STFU?
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #21
              Originally posted by dogtag
              Can you not formulate a complete sentence ?
              How can he formulate a sentence when he is still on bottled formula. DT our "friend" is a shining example...that of what not to be.
              Sam

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              • Sandpebble
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 2196

                #22
                Originally posted by leftyo
                thats all red has is his ability to spout off with the hate comments, over, and over, and over, and over again. if we were to pattern his behavior on just this forum over the last couple of years, you would have a perfect example of how the nazi party operated.. every time i see his twist, hate, burn bs comments, all i can see is a little nazi troll trying to incite everyone else. hell, for the longest time he had pretty much everyone on this board absolutely hateful towards me, and anyone here can check every post i have ever made and see, i dont adhere to the socialist, nor liberal mentality. have never uttered hate to this country, nor our current president, but the little yellow bellied red snake always slanders me with accusations that i have/am, and much worse. he likes to call people members of the three stooges, and if anyone is, he would be schemp. its actually pitifull that a grown man(? old little boy is probably more fitting) can act and carry on like such an immature little spoiled brat for so long. there is no doubt there are a few liberals on this board, but when you speak socialism,red is at the forefront.
                Funny you say that Leftyo.... I'm a guy who's never collected a social benefit... never collected a pension from a social type job, IE law enforcement, fire department, military . I'm self employed and in fact ... employ others . I rely on no one.... all my bills are paid... house is paid for... medical bills all caught up...... and yet for the fact of those with a fear of an opposing viewpoint.... I'm a socialist

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Sandpebble
                  Funny you say that Leftyo.... I'm a guy who's never collected a social benefit... never collected a pension from a social type job, IE law enforcement, fire department, military . I'm self employed and in fact ... employ others . I rely on no one.... all my bills are paid... house is paid for... medical bills all caught up...... and yet for the fact of those with a fear of an opposing viewpoint.... I'm a socialist
                  How about the illegals?
                  Sam

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                  • Sandpebble
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 2196

                    #24
                    how about ...

                    Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                    How about the illegals?
                    Sam
                    How about an intelligent discussion instead of your silly little high school blerbs ?

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sandpebble
                      How about an intelligent discussion instead of your silly little high school blerbs ?
                      YOU were the one who was upset because the illegals are being deported, as for intelligent I don't want to overstep your bounds.
                      Sam

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                      • leftyo

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Sandpebble
                        Funny you say that Leftyo.... I'm a guy who's never collected a social benefit... never collected a pension from a social type job, IE law enforcement, fire department, military . I'm self employed and in fact ... employ others . I rely on no one.... all my bills are paid... house is paid for... medical bills all caught up...... and yet for the fact of those with a fear of an opposing viewpoint.... I'm a socialist
                        see, i dislike you for entirely different reasons.

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                        • Sandpebble
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 2196

                          #27
                          Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                          YOU were the one who was upset because the illegals are being deported, as for intelligent I don't want to overstep your bounds.
                          Sam
                          wrong again ... because you have no reading comprehension . I am upset that we do nothing about it until a child has lived here all his life... and then we are suddenly offended by his presence .

                          Intelligence.... sorry pal but I have a higher intelligence qoutient than to be so thin skinned I'd have to post fake Diplomas on the internet because my feelings were hurt .

                          When's your next AA meeting ? .... seems as though its due

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                          • S.A. Boggs
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 8568

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Sandpebble
                            wrong again ... because you have no reading comprehension . I am upset that we do nothing about it until a child has lived here all his life... and then we are suddenly offended by his presence .

                            Intelligence.... sorry pal but I have a higher intelligence qoutient than to be so thin skinned I'd have to post fake Diplomas on the internet because my feelings were hurt .

                            When's your next AA meeting ? .... seems as though its due
                            Is it true that you are offended to have ICE in your drink?
                            Sam

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                            • leftyo

                              #29
                              and people actually have to ask why this board has gone in the toilet.

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                              • Sandpebble
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 2196

                                #30
                                Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                                Is it true that you are offended to have ICE in your drink?
                                Sam
                                this from a man claiming cum laude ..... LOL ...... I bet the tinkle of ice in a glass breaks you into a cold sweat doesn't it.... alchy?

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