Protesters. Don't they have jobs?

[Roadkingtrax]

Liberals wouldn't know anything about this.

Oops...isnt this exactly what they do? Drain all the benefits?

[togor]

Disagree. Retirement pensions and earned Social Security benefits do not qualify as crybaby handouts. Both were worked for and paid into as a goal for later in life.

JB, it's called Social Security, and is a tax-based program put in place as part of Roosevelt's New Deal. Most collect much more than they put in, especially since people quit smoking so much. You can point to some aspect of program organization and say that makes all the difference in the world, that it isn't a free handout. But it is welfare for old people, paid for by young people. It's a government run wealth transfer operation from age demographics with less wealth to those with more.

[clintonhater]

But it is welfare for old people, paid for by young people.

You mean then that there's some justice in this humbug, PC, world?

[togor]

You mean then that there's some justice in this humbug, PC, world?

If you want to call it that, then fine. But what you are saying is that there is at least one liberal social program that you agree with. To which one could ask: just the one program? And the answer is no: Medicare too! We socialize old age in this country. If you can survive the Darwinian gauntlet of the first sixty plus years, then you can nuzzle in the busom if Mother Government through your golden years. Odd but true. I think a good idea would be to make voting contingent on not receiving government assistance, including old age assistance, with a health care exemption.

[RED]

Disagree. Retirement pensions and earned Social Security benefits do not qualify as crybaby handouts. Both were worked for and paid into as a goal for later in life.

They say SS recipients get back way more than they pay in. In 1958 when I started "paying in," my dollar was worth a hell of a lot more than it is now. For example a ounce of gold was $36, a coke and a hot dog down at the Dog Shack was $.05, lean ground beef was 4/lbs for $, a like new 1903A3 was $15 and a good condition 5 year old used Chevy car was $100. So do you actually get more or is it just a bigger number?

[Bill D]

Social security was a “New Deal” handout from the socialist administration of king FDR. Working people weren’t in favor of it then and still aren’t. My dad always said that if the government would just let him keep his SS taxes, he could invest it much better by himself. I feel the same but since the government still refuses to allow me to invest my own money, I damned well intend to draw every bit that I legally can. And, SS wouldn’t be on such a fast track to destruction if not for the present “new dealers” that togor so admires.

[S.A. Boggs]

Social security was a “New Deal” handout from the socialist administration of king FDR. Working people weren’t in favor of it then and still aren’t. My dad always said that if the government would just let him keep his SS taxes, he could invest it much better by himself. I feel the same but since the government still refuses to allow me to invest my own money, I damned well intend to draw every bit that I legally can. And, SS wouldn’t be on such a fast track to destruction if not for the present “new dealers” that togor so admires.

Yea, but without that $$$ how could the Socialists buy the votes of illegals?
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

Social security was a “New Deal” handout from the socialist administration of king FDR. Working people weren’t in favor of it then and still aren’t. My dad always said that if the government would just let him keep his SS taxes, he could invest it much better by himself. I feel the same but since the government still refuses to allow me to invest my own money, I damned well intend to draw every bit that I legally can. And, SS wouldn’t be on such a fast track to destruction if not for the present “new dealers” that togor so admires.

Let me tell you a story. After I retired from the Army, I went to work for a small company that got bought, sold, etc. Finally, it became part of a large company that had a 401k. I put the max in that 401k for a little over 10 years before retiring for good.

Note that while I was putting 15% of my income in the 401k I was ALSO involuntarily putting 15.3% into Social Security. (That includes the "Employer's Contribution" -- which is money I earned.)

Now I have to take Required Minimum Distribution from that 401k. And my RMD is $3,000 a year MORE than my Social Security AND my wife's Social Security combined!

Imagine where I'd be if I'd been allowed to KEEP and invest what Social Security took from me!

[Allen]

Same here Vern. I worked for large corporation for 19 years. Our 401K plan was company matched for the first 2%. The plan was mostly company stock with most contributing about 10%. After 25 years with the stock splits and dividends plus the weekly contributions you could retire with a 7 figure nest egg or close to it.

[Bill D]

Also, if I remember correctly, social security was supposed to be put into a separate account to only be used for social security. Then the politicos discovered that great big account . . . .

[sid]

Yes. It was supposed to be in a "lock box" and it was that way until Lyndon Johnson decided to steal from it.

[dogtag]

Also, if I remember correctly, social security was supposed to be put into a separate account to only be used for social security. Then the politicos discovered that great big account . . . .

There isn't a lock box, safe or vault that a liberal couldn't break into,
assuming he or she knew there was somebody else's money inside.
And don't think it's safe under your mattress either.

[S.A. Boggs]

There isn't a lock box, safe or vault that a liberal couldn't break into,
assuming he or she knew there was somebody else's money inside.
And don't think it's safe under your mattress either.

Sorry, "they" stole the mattress too.
Sam

[RETREAD123456]

They. are mostly shills for the Left and and other NEW WORLD ORDER. types

[RED]

Let me tell you a story. After I retired from the Army, I went to work for a small company that got bought, sold, etc. Finally, it became part of a large company that had a 401k. I put the max in that 401k for a little over 10 years before retiring for good.

Note that while I was putting 15% of my income in the 401k I was ALSO involuntarily putting 15.3% into Social Security. (That includes the "Employer's Contribution" -- which is money I earned.)

Now I have to take Required Minimum Distribution from that 401k. And my RMD is $3,000 a year MORE than my Social Security AND my wife's Social Security combined!

Imagine where I'd be if I'd been allowed to KEEP and invest what Social Security took from me!

Of course you understand that the lefties think everybody else is irresponsible and would have spent their money on cigarettes and whiskey. Togor and his BFF crowd knows everything and they have to guide everybody or else they will starve.

He is so smart and so telepathic he knows the Powerball Lottery numbers weeks before they are drawn.