The hollow promise of the socialists ...

[dogtag]

"A vote for me means everything's free"
My feeling are a little mixed about the plight of the
Venezuelan people because on one hand I wouldn't
wish this kind of misery on anyone, not even the
lovely Maxine. However, I remind myself that these
people voted for what they now have proving the
old maxim "People get the government they deserve".
Millions have fled to neighboring countries, probably
the people who voted for the socialists, leaving those
who didn't holding the bag. Typical of liberals.

http://news.trust.org/item/20180815120014-zxwh0

"You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and you can fool all the people some of the time,
but you can't fool all the people all of the time"

I'm not so sure this is true anymore.

[Roadkingtrax]

Trump helped make New York the socialists paradise it is. Yet you applaud him now?

[S.A. Boggs]

Trump helped make New York the socialists paradise it is. Yet you applaud him now?

???
Sam

[JB White]

Trump helped make New York the socialists paradise it is. Yet you applaud him now?

Not following you. Do you mean as a businessman who pumped beau coup bucks into their economy while successfully reaping the rewards of the seeds he had sown?

[togor]

So Sam, after your wife retires, how will you get health insurance? COBRA on her Walmart plan, buy a different private or turn to the government for Socialized Health Insurance? Any pre-existing conditions? Rhetorical questions, with my point being that it's less about the system of government and more about limiting corruption and abuse of power in that government. Places like Venezuela have always had problems. Turkey heads down the same path with a conservative regime and you can see how that's going. Meanwhile, another Socialist Petro-State, Norway, does much better.

Closer to home, look at a one party state like Kansas. You get a guy like Kobach precisely because he smells power he can abuse. Heck his rival, the current sitting governor, threw in the towel when he was about 100 votes behind, even before the recount. Smell fishy to you? Could the fact that Kobach, as Secretary of State, runs the elections and recounts have anything to do with it? Of course not...nothing to see there.

[Roadkingtrax]

Not following you. Do you mean as a businessman who pumped beau coup bucks into their economy while successfully reaping the rewards of the seeds he had sown?

His donations contributed to putting them in office. His political pragmatism makes him a hypocrite.

His seeds are rooted in fiscal irresponsibility. Sounds socialist to me?

[dryheat]

Before Venesuela it was Argentina. When their country deflated, it was a real SHTF situation. One of the most sensible books on survival I read was written by a guy who lived through it. Let's see, South America... Norway... I can't figure it out.

[Sandpebble]

Any one remember ten or eleven years ago right here in the good ol USA ?

economy was tanked, 401s down the toilet.... right here where I'm living now a huge proportion of homes were foreclosed on with not a job to be found....

We were laying off Firemen and EMTs and closing down the airport.....

it was "turd world" right here in America .... and the Dems didn't do it... no matter how bad we want that to be true....

[togor]

Who isn't after OPM in some way, shape or form? Capitalists aren't?

Red, how about we form a book club and re-read Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich together? I'm on page 53, so you'll have no problem catching up.

You're wrong about history, BTW. The SDP was on the left. The German Workers Party was clearly on the right. What put it there was the very strong nationalist streak, which was a direct result of Germany's defeat in the Great War. Ludendorf, who allowed his prestige to be attached to many of the right wing partiest fomenting in Bavaria at the time, was certainly no leftist.

Oh and here, someone formatted the entire Shirer book in LaTex (a typesetting syntax) and it is posted online as a PDF. But you really should check the book out from the library or buy a copy if you can't find yours.

http://elibrary.bsu.az/books_400/N_389.pdf

[blackhawknj]

"Socialists don't love the poor they hate the rich. " George Orwell

[dryheat]

The Great Recession is a black mark on everyone involved. Builders and developers worked it right up to the day the crash started. Foolish people who buy lottery tickets bought houses to flip.

[S.A. Boggs]

Who isn't after OPM in some way, shape or form? Capitalists aren't?

Red, how about we form a book club and re-read Shirer's The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich together? I'm on page 53, so you'll have no problem catching up.

You're wrong about history, BTW. The SDP was on the left. The German Workers Party was clearly on the right. What put it there was the very strong nationalist streak, which was a direct result of Germany's defeat in the Great War. Ludendorf, who allowed his prestige to be attached to many of the right wing partiest fomenting in Bavaria at the time, was certainly no leftist.

Oh and here, someone formatted the entire Shirer book in LaTex (a typesetting syntax) and it is posted online as a PDF. But you really should check the book out from the library or buy a copy if you can't find yours.

http://elibrary.bsu.az/books_400/N_389.pdf

So, the members of the new NAZI party are re-reading history so as not to make the same mistakes as the previous NAZI party? By the way, I read Shirer's book an excellent read. When you are done, read Speer's book as well for what happens when you lose.
Sam

[togor]

Hi Sam,

Still suffering that confusion I see. Well whatever makes you feel better.

[Vern Humphrey]

This will give our left wing friends the willies, but you cannot claim to know anything about the Nazis or the first half of the 20th Century until you have read "Mein Kampf." The acronym "Nazi" stands for National Socialism -- and the "25 Points of the Nazi Party" make it clear that's exactly what they were. Fourteen of those points are predominantly socialist, and the remaining eleven are ultra-nationalist.

Read the 25 Points and compare them to the current behavior of the Left in this country. Here's an example:

10 The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11 That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12 Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13 We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14 We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15 We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16 We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalisation of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small trades people, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.


Note Point 16 for example -- now do you wonder why the Left hates Wal Mart?

[Roadkingtrax]

Because they sell cheap sh$t, not inexpensive, cheap.