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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Vern, having expended the effort to feed the trolls and type that much, do you dare put the 25 points in their proper context, where the party was at the time, and what came of each point when the party came to power? I think I can guess the answer to that one. Well I'll help you. The Socialist points were put in there at the insistence of other party members. Remember, Hitler didn't found the German Workers Party. Once Hitler came to power, those points were ancient history.

    Another Red/Sam/Vern NAZI post that would get an "F" in high school world history class in all 50 states.

    But you guys keep coming back for more. I'll give you credit for persistence, but arguing the point 1,000 times only means that you'll be wrong 1,000 times.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      Vern, having expended the effort to feed the trolls and type that much, do you dare put the 25 points in their proper context, where the party was at the time, and what came of each point when the party came to power? I think I can guess the answer to that one. Well I'll help you. The Socialist points were put in there at the insistence of other party members. Remember, Hitler didn't found the German Workers Party. Once Hitler came to power, those points were ancient history.

      Another Red/Sam/Vern NAZI post that would get an "F" in high school world history class in all 50 states.

      But you guys keep coming back for more. I'll give you credit for persistence, but arguing the point 1,000 times only means that you'll be wrong 1,000 times.
      Dr. Goebbels is where Togor get his information from as anyone can tell. Togor doesn't want to admit to being a NAZI party member, same as RKT so deny, deny and transfix to other point of "information", a useful psychological tool of despair. Problem is that unless one travels the NAZI path, no one believes their rhetoric. Togor is up against learned men such as Vern who has seen and fought the enemy up-close, that I comment Vern for. Togor is a "Brown Shirt" proponent of Ernst Rohm and history tell one how well that went. Keep spouting Togor or whatever your real name is, the veil is off and your undies are exposed for all to see. The more you deny, the more the veil drops!
      Sam

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Congratulations on a fact-free post, Sam!

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #19
          Originally posted by togor
          Congratulations on a fact-free post, Sam!
          You're welcome, I like communicating at your level as well.
          Sam

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            As a political metaphore, comparing some party to Nazis is fine, if old hat. If however one is going to attempt to make a literal comparison, then one should be prepared to do more than cherry-pick selected tidbits to stitch together a thesis. If one is not prepared to take on evidence to the contrary, and the evidence that the Nazis were on the right side of the spectrum and not the left is overwhelming, then one should expect derision, ridicule, etc.

            What are the chances that we could find something kinda liberal in the GOP platform going back say 25 years. Pretty high, right? But is that really a sufficient basis for saying that the GOP is a liberal party? Most would say no, that more data is needed.
            Last edited by togor; 08-17-2018, 11:38.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #21
              Togor I am comparing on several things actually. For one, the leader of your party has come out as favoring Socialism, a leading candidate from New York City...an avowed Socialist. Many other spokespeople in the party now coming out for Socialism. The Democratic Party has ALWAYS been the party of the worker thru out their history. National Socialist American Workers Party is what it is now. Now for the NAZI part, I am simply using the abbreviation from the German Language nothing more. With the NAZI platform of the 1930's it is ridiculous to state that the party was on the right. Face it Torgor or what ever your real name is, your hand is caught in the till and you find it embarrassing. NAZI values you espouse, as does your leftist party and the more you deny the more the deceit is foretold. Having dealt with mental illness, denial of reality there is many statements you have/will be comparable to what I treated. "I'm not an addict" as I watched them in withdrawal in jail is what I am seeing in your constant denial.
              Sam

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              • Roadkingtrax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 7835

                #22
                God...Sam's virtue signaling is nauseating.
                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23
                  Hi Sam,

                  As inviting as your tangets are, I'd like to stick to the main point, which is that from the moment Hitler joined up, the Nazis were a right wing nationalist party. Before Hitler joined up, they were nothing. Nazis, even today, find their quarrel on the left, who they regard as too internationalist and multi-cultural and multi-racial in their outlook. And this thing to which you give an acronym, the NSAWP, doesn't even exist! I do realize in your case I'm talking to a brick wall, but who knows, maybe someone else reads this and gets a clue.

                  Are you familiar with wartime German Ordnance Codes? Both P-Codes and letter codes? Do you understand their significance to this discussion?

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #24
                    Guys, how many times do I have to say it -- don't feed the trolls.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                      Guys, how many times do I have to say it -- don't feed the trolls.
                      Point taken Vern, but given the damage that Nazis did, and the fact that they are still out there, making more noise now than before for some reason, I feel like it's my civic duty to bear witness in opposition to some old guys (who ought to know better) as they try to rewrite history. Pretty soon we'll have holocaust deniers here, and then the place will start to feel like 4chan.

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                      • JB White
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13371

                        #26
                        Holocaust...never happened. Just a bunch of incarcerated dissidents. Those who remained in the underground unearthed cemeteries and posed corpses to further their own political agendas. They created the so-called holocaust.







                        I've had someone actually try to convince me that was the truth. That and the moon landing was staged as well. Methinks they had peyote in their Kool aid.
                        2016 Chicago Cubs. MLB Champions!


                        **Never quite as old as the other old farts**

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          Guys, how many times do I have to say it -- don't feed the trolls.
                          Don't worry Vern, the NAZI'S on the board will object to most anything and tell their version of history...I have made my point so now they can stew.
                          Sam

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #28
                            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                            Don't worry Vern, the NAZI'S on the board will object to most anything and tell their version of history...I have made my point so now they can stew.
                            Sam
                            Exactly right -- we have our own trio of National Socialists on this board. But if we just ignore then, they'll go away and we can talk about things that matter.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #29
                              Who is trolling now, Vern? We could have a Nazi rumble, Sam/Vern/Red against togor/'trax/'pebble. The numbers say 3 on 3, but I have to be honest and say that I would like our odds. None of the three on your team shows much interest in sweating the details anymore.

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                              • S.A. Boggs
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 8568

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                                Exactly right -- we have our own trio of National Socialists on this board. But if we just ignore then, they'll go away and we can talk about things that matter.
                                Rabble rousers nothing more or less, say could one of them "Volunteer" to walk point? Back in the late 60's had a troubled child in high school who continually caused mischief and the school officials were tired of him. Apparently over one weekend he was "caught" by the cops trying a B&E and was taken before the judge. Was given the option of "joining" the Army or sitting in jail awaiting trial, the cops were tired of him being a problem in the community. During basic continued the same stupid stuff with the same results for him. In Nam he was given the opportunity of walking point and his name is on the wall. "Our" three apparently have the same mentality with similar results. NAZI'S historically are rabble rousers and nothing more can be said about them.
                                Sam

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