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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Why do they get to keep their security clearances ? ...

    When I left Young and Rubicam it didn't mean I could
    go back any time to use their bathroom or their copier,
    so why when these people leave whatever Agency they
    worked for are they allowed to go back and listen to
    secret conversations. It's ridiculous and made even more
    so when they use their credentials to sabotage the new
    administration that ousted them in the first place.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-internet.html
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Security clearances are based on "need to know," If you're no longer working, you no longer have a need to know, and your security clearance ought to be revoked automatically.

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      Did Jared get his? Lol
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • sid
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3198

        #4
        Brennan just lost his clearance today. Trump is going take care of some more of Obama's appointments in the near future.

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        • dogtag
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 14985

          #5
          Originally posted by sid
          Brennan just lost his clearance today. Trump is going take care of some more of Obama's appointments in the near future.
          These security clearances for the ex employees probably
          represent their meal tickets.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            Originally posted by dogtag
            These security clearances for the ex employees probably
            represent their meal tickets.
            Exactly right -- they'll eat off their security clearances for a decade if allowed.

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            • bruce
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3759

              #7
              It has not been a problem in the past for such clearances to remain. What changed? Why is it now a problem? Why is it a problem that anyone uses information, training, relationships, etc., gained in such employment to make money in the private sector? Sincerely. bruce.
              " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Bruce: Trump hopes that stripping people like Brennan of clearances, he can diminish their credentials and make them seem less authoritative when they go on TV to criticize his national security policies, especially where the Russians and our elections are concerned. It has nothing to do with the idea that people leave government service and cash in on it in the private sector. One look at the number of people who have left his administration to join his campaign or some other GOP operation should tell you that. Of course the other reason for that could be to lock them into NDA and arbitration clauses. One thing Trump definitely doesn't like is the little people around him getting their day in court if their relationship with him goes south for them.

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                • Art
                  Senior Member, Deceased
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9256

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Bruce: Trump hopes that stripping people like Brennan of clearances, he can diminish their credentials and make them seem less authoritative when they go on TV to criticize his national security policies, especially where the Russians and our elections are concerned. It has nothing to do with the idea that people leave government service and cash in on it in the private sector. One look at the number of people who have left his administration to join his campaign or some other GOP operation should tell you that. Of course the other reason for that could be to lock them into NDA and arbitration clauses. One thing Trump definitely doesn't like is the little people around him getting their day in court if their relationship with him goes south for them.
                  All true, but there is another reason. As long as they have a security clearance they have access (legitimate or not) to inside baseball stuff they'll use to bash the Prez. That does. indeed, help the pundits more marketable.

                  Clearances are now periodically reviewed and eventually are supposed to go away. I had a top secret clearance when I left the 'gubmint which has long since lapsed but I had no need whatsoever for the day I left my government job.
                  Last edited by Art; 08-16-2018, 04:38.

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                  • blocker
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 147

                    #10
                    The day I retired my government clearance went away. Thought that was for everyone, guess not!

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blocker
                      The day I retired my government clearance went away. Thought that was for everyone, guess not!
                      For ordinary people, that's true. For the well-connected, apparently not.

                      To allow people who no longer need security clearances to keep them is sloppy at best, and dangerous at worst.

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                      • bruce
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3759

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RED
                        Wake up Bruce and smell the coffee. So You think it is OK for a ex CIA agent to go to the outfit he used to work for and gather secret information so he can illegally use it in his new job at CNN?
                        Coffee! Personally prefer Death Wish! Good stuff. As to CIA agents, etc., the statement stands as written. It has not been a problem for former military/govt. employees to take their knowledge/skills, information, training, relationships and use it in the private sector. It has been SOP. Security clearances were continued for many people, some of whom probably merited it while at least a large minority kept such clearance merely and only b/c it was custom, etc. Now ... all of a sudden ... some folks are getting all hot under the collar at what has been SOP since at least FDR/Truman/Eisenhower. So ... as to the question ... exactly what changed? To be more specific, what has changed such that these individuals who once were cleared for high level information access are now all of a sudden not worthy of such trust? Sincerely. bruce.
                        " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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