So Bowie, Crockett Travis and company were not Heroes ? ...

[Vern Humphrey]

The Texans were fighting for the Mexican Constitution of 1824, which Santa Anna had virtually abolished. They had right on their side. And Santa Anna, who killed prisoners and committed other atrocities was a monster who merely lacked the huge theaters of Hitler or Stalin.

[sid]

+1 on that!

[edpm3]

So the Alamo defenders who had the chance to withdraw but chose instead to remain and defend a tactically unsound position against an overwhelming enemy were not heroes. But if they had been captured and spared but kept imprisoned for seven years as prisoners of war, perhaps then it would have been okay to call them heroes.

[m1ashooter]

So the Alamo defenders who had the chance to withdraw but chose instead to remain and defend a tactically unsound position against an overwhelming enemy were not heroes. But if they had been captured and spared but kept imprisoned for seven years as prisoners of war, perhaps then it would have been okay to call them heroes.

Maybe they aren't hero's to a person from SW Mo, but to Texans they are and in reality our opinion on the subject is really all that matters.

[Vern Humphrey]

So the Alamo defenders who had the chance to withdraw but chose instead to remain and defend a tactically unsound position against an overwhelming enemy were not heroes. But if they had been captured and spared but kept imprisoned for seven years as prisoners of war, perhaps then it would have been okay to call them heroes.

If you apply the modern day standards, you are sadly right.

[JB White]

Most outside of Texas don't know that Texas was much larger at one time. Yet the first version Republic of Texas was much smaller than Texas is today.



Recently someone asked why Oklahoma had a panhandle. "That's so stupid!" she said. I took a bit of time to remind her of Indian Territory and the Missouri Compromise. Clueless. Totally clueless but she repeated "that's so stupid". It wasn't in her high school history books, therefore it didn't exist/never happened.
Revisionists and their victims. Now they want to rewrite Texas?

[Clark Howard]

You call them "revisionists". They are just dems, doing what dems do. Regards, Clark

[Roadkingtrax]

Texas gave up its "Northern" portion in part to repay debts to the Federal government. That was a component the Compromise of 1850.

[JB White]

Texas gave up its "Northern" portion in part to repay debts to the Federal government. That was a component the Compromise of 1850.

Yes, I stand corrected. 1850 established the neutral zone atop the TX panhandle aligned to the S. Missouri border. My history gets fuzzy with age, but at least I still remember more than most around me ever did.

[Roadkingtrax]

JB, not so much a correction, as a contribution. Please don't take it as such.

[JB White]

But I was off and you were absolutely correct. I'm thanking you. So...deal with it dammit! LOL

[Roadkingtrax]

But I was off and you were absolutely correct. I'm thanking you. So...deal with it dammit! LOL

I will not stand idly by and normalize positive conversation to let it infect this forum.

I wonder how different the states would look if circumstances were different in each case.

[JB White]

I will not stand idly by and normalize positive conversation to let it infect this forum.

I wonder how different the states would look if circumstances were different in each case.

Man, that's too much to fathom. There was a lot of controversy and border disputes across the entire US.