Maybe Pocahontas really is Pocahontas

[Vern Humphrey]

Vern, The written records we have only say that, that particular man ancestor was "Married, to woman". It seems as though folks around those areas did not take well to his marriage, to her. I do have a portrait of them, which IMO is pretty remarkable in itself. He looks hauntingly like me (poor guy) with a rounded fedora hat and string tie and suit coat of rough materials. She is in buckskins, etc., glaring at the camera!
Even if records are off by a generation that'd make me 1/32nd plus whatever from other directions.... oh well. As before, I am American.


Tommy

Agreed -- we are Americans. First, last and always.

And as I said, I can trace the people, but their race and other information is not in the records. My daughter, who is a whiz at genealogical research, says the colonial Dutch usually practiced Common Law Marriage, which left no records at all.

[dogtag]

Don't we all come from folks covered in fur ?

[Vern Humphrey]

Don't we all come from folks covered in fur ?

Those who weren't covered in fur froze to death and left no descendants.

Later on, we wandered into Europe and the Ice Age. We had to take fur off other critters to stay warm. That left us with very little exposed skin for the sunlight to fall on. I believe it was Onkogh who said, "Boys I know Black is beautiful, but we GOT to get us some vitamin D!"

And that's how we turned White.

[Sandpebble]

Common Law and no records ....

Agreed -- we are Americans. First, last and always.

And as I said, I can trace the people, but their race and other information is not in the records. My daughter, who is a whiz at genealogical research, says the colonial Dutch usually practiced Common Law Marriage, which left no records at all.

The Catholic Church was... or is... a big boon to geneologists . They kept records of births , deaths, baptisms etc etc etc ...but they kept little record of those that entered from without the faith .

My Fathers Grandmother was Abenaki off the reservation in Trois Rivieres , Quebec Canada . Our family geneologist has a record of every one of us all the way back to a French soldier who entered Canada in 1685 due to Church records....... but no records in the Church of those who were indigenous as they were obviously an embarrasment.

Maybe the DNA thing is all that's available to some ....

[Allen]

Make that barely native American

Test show she may be less than average native.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warrens-dna-test-mocked-as-gop-cites-study-showing-average-native-american-link-could-be-stronger

[dogtag]

Those who weren't covered in fur froze to death and left no descendants.

Later on, we wandered into Europe and the Ice Age. We had to take fur off other critters to stay warm. That left us with very little exposed skin for the sunlight to fall on. I believe it was Onkogh who said, "Boys I know Black is beautiful, but we GOT to get us some vitamin D!"

And that's how we turned White.

You learn something new every day

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[QUOTE=Allen;541020]Test show she may be less than average native.



Also less than average intelligence ?

[Allen]

Also less than average intelligence ?

I think she is above Biden and Maxine Waters who combined IQ is undoubtedly in the negatives.

[Sandpebble]

Test show she may be less than average native.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/war...ld-be-stronger

Well ... as far as that Fox News . com report goes... and I quote ...

“Warren might even be less Native American than the average European American,” Republican National Committee spokesman Mike Reed said in a statement Monday ... I now un quoute .

How can someone be "less" native American than the average "European American" .... ?? ... are they implying it's possible Melania has more native American in her ??

[togor]

Well ... as far as that Fox News . com report goes... and I quote ...

“Warren might even be less Native American than the average European American,” Republican National Committee spokesman Mike Reed said in a statement Monday ... I now un quoute .

How can someone be "less" native American than the average "European American" .... ?? ... are they implying it's possible Melania has more native American in her ??

Don't take the Fox News cheese....if your quote is verbatim then the weasel word "might" allows them to put anything they want after it. The ethno-nationalists are just dinging her for daring to identify at least partially with a different group. It's that simple. Ironically, when it comes to things like Wall Street excesses causing crashes, she's way more in their corner than the people they prefer to back.

[blackhawknj]

Isn't this a repudiation of what Martin Luther King advocated-character is more important than skin color. And as Ayn Rand said in her essay "Racism", a bum is still a bum no matter how distinguished his family tree.

[Vern Humphrey]

Isn't this a repudiation of what Martin Luther King advocated-character is more important than skin color. And as Ayn Rand said in her essay "Racism", a bum is still a bum no matter how distinguished his family tree.

Or as Quanah Parker said, "We are all the same people."

[sid]

Officers of the Cherokee nation just said she was never a member of their tribe and denounced her for using this claim to advance herself politically.

[blackhawknj]

So the Cherokees don't like poseurs either.
Again, I question why is there such a "cachet" to having Native American/Indian ancestry. Rather racist, no ?

[Major Tom]

I once met a woman who bragged she had "a little Indian" in her.
I asked her if she would like to have a "little Swede" in her!
8-)

[S.A. Boggs]

"What does it matter!" Hillary Clinton has said.
Sam