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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    2016?

    Listening to the news I wonder if the way back machine has returned me back? Listening to the glee of the left of how Hillary is going to win in a landslide and the worry of the right that Trump will be soundly defeated! It reminds me of what a famous man said many eon's ago, "Don't take counsel of your fears!"
    In the early stages of The Bulge, Allied Generals were in a panic save for one who saw an opportunity. Patton stated that courage was needed and let the Germans come in and then cut them off in a pincer movement to destroy them, Eisenhower couldn't see that. Eisenhower was a political general with no combat experience who was more worried about losing a war. Patton was a fighting general who's only concern was in winning...see the difference now? For 50 years year's America was more worried about losing our "friends" in the world and not being liked. Now we have a guy who is more concerned about America winning and in so helping where we should and that is at home. Charity begins at home, not beyond our border. I am tired of seeing America carry a jar of Vaseline for the world to use on us.
    Sam
  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #2
    I agree Sam! Re: the Bulge, the 101st airborne and Patten saved the day! While Ike and Montgomery were arguing about who was to cross the Rhine first.

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    • Clark Howard
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 2105

      #3
      Without courage, there is no difference between them and us. Regards, Clark

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        The Bulge attack ended when the weather cleared.
        Allied planes caused havoc amongst the German lines.
        It was basically over before Patton got there - he just mopped up.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          The Bulge attack ended when the weather cleared.
          Allied planes caused havoc amongst the German lines.
          It was basically over before Patton got there - he just mopped up.
          My cousin was in the 101, that is not how he described it to me 60 years ago as he showed me his pictures from the war. His recollection was that they were running out of everything except "Krauts!" I wish I had more time now with my cousin Dow, he was a character and not much to look at as an older guy. After Dow died I found out how tough he had been.
          Sam

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          • Allen
            Moderator
            • Sep 2009
            • 10583

            #6
            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
            My cousin was in the 101, that is not how he described it to me 60 years ago as he showed me his pictures from the war. His recollection was that they were running out of everything except "Krauts!" I wish I had more time now with my cousin Dow, he was a character and not much to look at as an older guy. After Dow died I found out how tough he had been.
            Sam
            This would relate more to all the documentaries I've seen. It was a last ditch effort by Hitler to go all in full force but mainly it caught the Americans by total surprise, many of them feeling they had seen the last of the really hard fighting. A LOT of America's greatest generation ended at the Bulge.

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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #7
              At the Bulge the Germans showed they learned something from us, set up a phantom 25th Army to the North, generated a lot of radio traffic, the units actually allocated to the attack were on radio silence.
              Albert Speer mentions visiting Sepp Dietrich's HQ and being taken aback when Dietrich angrily said "the Americans were tough opponents, soldiers as good as our own. Even the elite divisions of the SS couldn't run over them with impunity."

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              • dogtag
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 14985

                #8
                And don't forget McAuliffe the master wordsmith with his famous "Nuts"

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                • Bodyman
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 787

                  #9
                  Gads, ...

                  Gadzeeks, I just had to say it out loud - I do love to just sit back and read what you guys write. I never know what is around the next corner.

                  Thanks and keep at it.
                  Far enough right to just be, ... right.

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                  • Bill D
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2568

                    #10
                    Hey, Jeff - welcome back. I missed you.
                    "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

                    "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
                    -- Robert Frost

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