Merkle wants a "Eupeorian Army" as does France.

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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    Merkle wants a "Eupeorian Army" as does France.

    Good for them to protect their AO, now we can leave NATO and get rid of the 9MM!
    Sam
  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #2
    Makes absolutely NO sense that Trump slammed that proposal! How fkng STUPID, when that's essentially what he's been asking for, though under NATO control. But the whole purpose of NATO (except for attacking defenseless countries like Serbia & Libya) is protection of Europe, & with a true European army, that worthless bureaucracy could be eliminated.

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      Originally posted by clintonhater
      Makes absolutely NO sense that Trump slammed that proposal! How fkng STUPID, when that's essentially what he's been asking for, though under NATO control. But the whole purpose of NATO (except for attacking defenseless countries like Serbia & Libya) is protection of Europe, & with a true European army, that worthless bureaucracy could be eliminated.
      You forget the real importance of Nato ...... arms sales = jobs for some ... and more importantly still..... arms sales increases stock dividends for others ...

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        The purpose of NATO is to prevent major European wars. I find it ironic that people who favor military spending as a war preventative decry a military alliance with a great track record of doing exactly that: preventing war.
        Last edited by togor; 11-13-2018, 11:40.

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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8568

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          The purpose of NATO is to prevent major European wars. I find it ironic that people who favor military spending as a war preventative decry a military alliance with a great track record of doing exactly that: preventing war.
          Does Europe REALLY NEED America to help them now? Isn't Europe grown up enough now to manage their own affairs? America has enough to do here guarding our own people, let Germans guard the French as France can't do it!
          Sam

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            NATO was created to deter Soviet expansionism. It worked well at that -- but nowadays is Soviet expansionism the great threat that is was? We have an expensive solution to a problem that may no longer exist.

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            • clintonhater
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 5220

              #7
              Originally posted by Sandpebble
              You forget the real importance of Nato ...... arms sales = jobs for some ... and more importantly still..... arms sales increases stock dividends for others ...
              THAT reason makes sense!

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                The purpose of NATO is to prevent major European wars. I find it ironic that people who favor military spending as a war preventative decry a military alliance with a great track record of doing exactly that: preventing war.
                Tell that to the Serbs & Libyans. The Ukrainian Russians fighting for their independence would already have got the same, except that NATO won't attack forces that can fight back effectively.

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                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                NATO was created to deter Soviet expansionism. It worked well at that -- but nowadays is Soviet expansionism the great threat that is was?
                Obviously not! And anyone who brings up Crimea reveals themselves as a historical idiot. But China is now colonizing without hindrance the open ocean!

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #9
                  What obligations do we have to the Serbs and Libyans that Europe in general does not have? Why can't the Europeans take care of their own back yard?

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    What obligations do we have to the Serbs and Libyans that Europe in general does not have? Why can't the Europeans take care of their own back yard?
                    Apparently they don't care having tried to kill each other for years.
                    Sam

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #11
                      IIRC they had a "Eurocorps" a few years ago, they made a big deal about German troops parading through Paris-this time, by invitation.
                      After WWI Foch is quoted as saying:
                      "Now that I know what a coalition is, I have a lot less respect for Napoleon."
                      Each probably expects the other side to pay for it. And what exactly will be its mission ?

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        As Spencer said, "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." As long as we do the work for them, and pay for it with both our treasure and our blood, they will never undertake to clean up their own back yard.

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                        • RED
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11689

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          The purpose of NATO is to prevent major European wars. I find it ironic that people who favor military spending as a war preventative decry a military alliance with a great track record of doing exactly that: preventing war.

                          Another stinking lie from a National Socialist. The entire purpose of North Atlantic Treaty Organization was to provide collective security against the Soviet union. It had nothing to do with wars between Britain France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and the Scandinavian countries.
                          Last edited by RED; 11-13-2018, 02:34.

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                            NATO was created to deter Soviet expansionism. It worked well at that -- but nowadays is Soviet expansionism the great threat that is was? We have an expensive solution to a problem that may no longer exist.
                            Soviet expansion, but also to lock that part of Germany into the western alliance, even as the Soviets did the same in the east.

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                            • RED
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11689

                              #15
                              Originally posted by togor
                              Soviet expansion, but also to lock that part of Germany into the western alliance, even as the Soviets did the same in the east.
                              More bull sheet. Give it up and confess you are a Socialist/Communist pig that hates America and pisses on the American flag. You kneel for the anthem and stand up with a single finger salute for God Bless America.

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