DOJ Fastracks Transgender Cases To Supreme Court

[sid]

This is important. We must get a ruling that says the American military is not the place for social experiments. Clinton and Obama, two freaks who never wore a uniform, were the driving force behind these crazy innovations.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...supreme-court/

[Roadkingtrax]

Did Sid serve?

[JB White]

"Stop shooting, Muhammed. Stop it now! Yoo-hoo....you're not listening to me-e-e-e"

[sid]

JB - That about sums it up.

[Sandpebble]

Ignored Road Kings question... didn't ya Sid ?

oh... and if I May.... as far as Clinton and Obama not serving.... what about { Yeah ... What About } Bone Spur ??

[clintonhater]

Fast-tracking requests are usually denied by the Supremes, unfortunately, which is what the Trump-hating judges making these decisions always count on--having their bum decisions remain in effect for years of lower court litigation. Hope it's different this time.

[Roadkingtrax]

Ignored Road Kings question... didn't ya Sid ?

I'm blocked. He even announced it.

[togor]

Was it considered a social experiment when the armed forces de-segregated? Some said it was, if I recall my history. Trump not being a detail main, I doubt he's pushing it for specific operational reasons. Clearly something he pulled from the list of grievances that he and the base together keep.

[blackhawknj]

Yes, it a was social experiment when Truman desegregated the Armed Forces. Also he issued the executive order doing so about two weeks before the 1948 election, which he probably expected to lose. And that executive order could have been reversed by a new president. Segregation had to some extent broken down under the stress of combat and the need to replace casualties in WWII. Desegregation of the Armed Forces was accelerated by Korea.
It was a social experiment to establish the Women's Army Corps, though the thinking then was if you put a woman in uniform, put her in an administrative or
clerical position, driving a vehicle, in a signals unit-you free a man to fight. Charity Adams, the first black woman commissioned as an officer in the WAAC/WAC wrote of the stunned reactions she saw in white soldiers when they encountered a black woman officer-whom they had to salute and address as "Ma'am."
And WWI veteran Harry S. Truman said:

"Homosexuality and military service are incompatible."

[togor]

Is the point that social experiments in the military are successful? Gays succeed in high stress civilian jobs. No reason to believe they can't support the mission in 2018.

[blackhawknj]

As a Marine reservist told a reporter:
"You only have to work with them. We have to live with them." And the Catholic Church probably has something to say about putting homosexuals in positions of trust and responsibility.

[togor]

None of which has anything to do with a service member's ability to execute a mission.

[blackhawknj]

Those of us who have served would differ on that.

[togor]

The Catholic Church has a problem with pedophilia which is not the same thing as homosexuality. That problem comes from the peculiar culture of the priesthood, which has been an attractive environment for pedophilic predators, probably for hundreds of years at least.

The Protestants allow women and gays to openly serve and consequently don't have these same sorts of perversions going on. Not never but usually just garden-variety adultery.

More openness is the cure, bigotry and intolerance are the disease. If someone wants to serve and can execute the mission faithfully, then their private business is their own to the same extent as any civilian. If it works in the firehouse, it can work in the barracks. People just have to grow up.

[blackhawknj]

If homosexuals had behaved in a responsible and mature manner AIDS would not have spread the way it did. Of all the things the LGBTQ crowd calls themselves the funniest is grownups. Current DoD regulations forbid the overseas deployment of those who test HIV positive, that has led to a lot of bitterness among those who have to take their place and causes problems retaining them.
Yes pedophilia is not the same thing as homosexuality, but in the heterosexual world the pedophile is seen as the lowest of the low, the scum of the earth. Is there an organization called NAMGLA ?
I read a book about the Hare Krishnas, they attracted quite a homosexual/pedophile contingent, their rules were that to attain the higher ranks you had to be celibate. They got individuals who said, "Yes, I have no interest in women." Don't recall celibacy as referring only to abstention from heterosexual relations. Some years ago the late Cardinal Bevilacqua said that homosexuals would no longer be admitted to the seminaries under his jurisdiction. Those Protestant churches who allow homosexuals to serve openly,and celebrate their homosexuality are the ones that are losing members and financial support-in many case whole congregations have seceded.
And I have seen no enthusiasm among women to share their locker rooms and restrooms with those who "strongly identify" as female.