How I KNEW the Repub won in ol' Miss.

[Roadkingtrax]

People often preach on this site about the self-victimization coping-mechanism used by the "snowflake" left.

If geographic location is now another call to victimhood of someone finding themselves on the opposite side of an argument, maybe Togor is on to something.

Sack up and counter his point.

[clintonhater]

Sack up and counter his point.

THAT, I already did. His only point (though never expressed openly) is that the "feelings" of blacks about Southern history & traditions are more important than those of whites.

[Roadkingtrax]

THAT, I already did. His only point (though never expressed openly) is that the "feelings" of blacks about Southern history & traditions are more important than those of whites.

As a black man, how do you feel about seeing a lynching or a hanging?

[clintonhater]

As a black man, how do you feel about seeing a lynching or a hanging?

No different from seeing any other violent murder, which take place all over the country, sometimes with more brutality than a lynching. Is there any reason to think blacks didn't attend public hangings--they were HUGE tourist attractions.

[Roadkingtrax]

What is no different? How would you feel?

[lyman]

No, not you personally, merely your culture, history, traditions. (However, that's assuming you don't own a stars & bars flag, which proves to him you're a Klansman; in that case, it would be personal.)

well I have a brother from another mother that does CW reinacting,

he does both sides, but mainly southern (45th va),

I supported him and his group 2x's,
the did a march from Dinwiddie Courthouse to Appomattox for the surrender, in period correct clothing, (including the boots,,)
first time they did it, they ate only period correct rations and food,
a few other friends and I cooked a big stew for them one night,

the used my shop van and trailer as a support vehicle both times,

got a nice plaque made with a piece of the flag they carried during the march (cut up after the surrender) a pic I took of the group, and a copy of a period correct pass given to each soldier as they surrendered,

this was during the 150th, both north and south reinactors were present in abundance, and put on a helluva show,


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[togor]

I remember a lunar eclipse, viewed one beautifully clear January night in the parking lot of a TGI Fridays in Birmingham, Alabama. Me and a couple fellow yankees were in town on business and stopped to admire it before heading in for a meal. Temperature was low 20's and the locals thought we were nuts until we explained to them that no, we weren't crazy, just northerners. LOL, that made sense to them.

I have no problem with southern people. I deal with them all the time for work. I do have a problem with slavery, the idea and history of its practice, and I think the country needs to actively work to move on from the lingering notions of social order based on race. Can anyone take issue with that?

CH was the one who asserted that I hated white southern culture. When I asked him what his definition was of this thing that I hate, and how it was different from southern culture, the best he had was this:

The difference is that "southern WHITE culture" is the culture of the MAJORITY, otherwise known as democracy. Democracy worthy of the name is what's now called Populism, but what liberals mean by democracy is rule by the elites who "know best" what's good for the hoi-polloi.

That's a bit like answering the question "what are grits?" by saying "something that people in the South eat". Technically true, but it doesn't really answer the question, now does it? And saying it's the majority? Is that really the best thing that southern white culture has going, that there's more whites than blacks in the south? I've been down this road with CH before. He bemoans the decline of "the American Way of Life", but when pressed to define that, he passes. Why? If an idea is so cherished, so worth defending, then why pass on the opportunity to say something positive about it? CH, if there's something you love about the south, that I supposedly hate, then speak to it, man!

[clintonhater]

What is no different? How would you feel?

Most people witnessing a murder would be shocked--so would I. Afraid for myself? Not at all, unless the murderer seemed to be looking for another victim, as in a terrorist attack.

If the South was full of rabid killers looking for blacks to lynch, why were lynchings so FEW? There was an unlimited supply of blacks--more than enough for lynchings every day. That didn't happen.

[clintonhater]

CH, if there's something you love about the south, that I supposedly hate, then speak to it, man!

The heroic defense of their homeland against overwhelming odds.

[Roadkingtrax]

Most people witnessing a murder would be shocked--so would I. Afraid for myself? Not at all, unless the murderer seemed to be looking for another victim, as in a terrorist attack.

If the South was full of rabid killers looking for blacks to lynch, why were lynchings so FEW? There was an unlimited supply of blacks--more than enough for lynchings every day. That didn't happen.

Why are people so afraid of shark attacks, when statistically you're more likely to have been lynched?

People, especially innocent people, don't like the imagery of a race based lynching or hanging. They have a mathematical data point which says it was more likely to occur to one group than the other. Which group you are in has a huge bearing on how you might feel or think about the imagery.

Plenty of white people were lynched, but those did not keep pace with those that were black. So I guess there was an ample supply.

I'd trust a shark way more than I would a group of men with a reputation of side-stepping the law in the early 20th century South. Then again, I could stay out of the ocean, and all that lynching didnt drive people out or keep them away as it was intended.

[togor]

The heroic defense of their homeland against overwhelming odds.

That wasn't so hard now was it? Remember you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I don't begrudge them their defense. Robert E. Lee energetically commanded his armies, but once the war was over, he was prepared to move on and not linger in a twilight era of monuments to the cause. In that I believe he set the right example.

[lyman]

I'd trust a shark way more than I would a group of men with a reputation of side-stepping the law in the early 20th century South,

while I get the point you are making, fact is, in that time period you could change the compass point to East, West or North and it would still be true,,