Harley-Davidsonn, a prospective

[lyman]

I’ve owned everything, my last new bike was a Moto Guzzi California. ABS, good electronics with three fuel maps, good power to weight ratio, very comfortable ride. Harley has not kept up in the engine and electronics area imo. However no ones beats them in parts, dealers and roadside assistance at least for now anyway (things Moto Guzzi lacks in) They are going to have to suck it up and figure out a way to survive.

I am not a rider, never have been,

however if I were to take it up, I would love to have a Moto Guzzi,

they (and Triumph's) to me are just absolutely beautiful

and the Guzzi's I have heard sound fantastic

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Stock ones do, but most riders don't understand what back pressure does to assist in making power. They want straight pipes.

in my past occupation, my admin was a HOG member,
she said Loud Pipes Save Lives,

I asked her how, and she said you could hear the bike and thus be aware,

I asked her if she had heard of the dopler effect,

blank look

reminded her that as a sporty car driver (I drove Coopers then) and liked to drive sportily (I had S's) with the windows down, I did not want to hear loud pipes,

I would rather hear the stereo and the sporty exhaust of my Cooper

[togor]

Motos sound nice. I became partial to boxers. I rode an R100 for 20 years after laying that Suzuki down on a hairpin curve. Decided I wanted something with a lower CG. That also keep me off HDs.

[RED]

Red talks like a liberal. Taxes (tariffs) are great and corporate management can't be trusted to make good decisions. When AOC runs you'll be her biggest fan.

So that’s why I supported Trumps tax cuts and you, the great conservative, opposed them? Lie, lie, lie, agitate, agitate, agitate, hate, hate, hate, that’s all you do is try to be the sorriest jackass on the planet.

[lyman]

Motos sound nice. I became partial to boxers. I rode an R100 for 20 years after laying that Suzuki down on a hairpin curve. Decided I wanted something with a lower CG. That also keep me off HDs.

BMW makes a very nice bike

[Vern Humphrey]

Used to have one -- not actually mine. But I was with the helicopter pilot who spotted it in the desert north west of El Alamein. He came back after dropping me off, landed beside it, lashed it to the skids and brought it back to camp -- along with the MG 34 mounted on the side car. We got it running, but made the mistake of shooting the MG where the Egyptian Army liaison officer could hear and he confiscated it.

[Roadkingtrax]

BMW makes a very nice bike

Nice price too! I've never owned a new motorcycle, but if you take care of anything, it will last. Only thing I go through is batteries due to desert heat.

Something about having the simplicity of points, carb and air cooled. I do like fuel injection, shaft drive and tunable suspension as well!

[togor]

Used to have one -- not actually mine. But I was with the helicopter pilot who spotted it in the desert north west of El Alamein. He came back after dropping me off, landed beside it, lashed it to the skids and brought it back to camp -- along with the MG 34 mounted on the side car. We got it running, but made the mistake of shooting the MG where the Egyptian Army liaison officer could hear and he confiscated it.

Now that's a story!!

[togor]

Nice price too! I've never owned a new motorcycle, but if you take care of anything, it will last. Only thing I go through is batteries due to desert heat.

Something about having the simplicity of points, carb and air cooled. I do like fuel injection, shaft drive and tunable suspension as well!

My model year of R100 was transitional between points and Hall Effect ignition. The electronics weren't ready so they crammed a set of points into a too-small distributor housing. Points were therefore a serious maintenance bother so I picked up a solid state ignition module that ran the points on low voltage and never looked back. It had a factory oil cooler with 5 (!) gaskets for the filter seal. German engineers regards parts count as a pedestrian concern. The Bing carburators were steady if not spectacular and easily balanced and maintained.

[dryheat]

harley was the comeback darling when all the stock brokers, doctors and dentist decided they had to have a new one for the midlife crisis, -

That's my theory too. For a while everyone had one. Look up the stats, motorcycle wrecks are what caused the mid fifties accident rate to spike. So now it's back to normal; a old guy with a white beard and a cigarette(I have never understood smoking while riding a bike).

[togor]

When I pass a guy on the interstate on a bike, not wearing a lid, I look for ear plugs. Some guys have 'em, some don't. All day on a machine at highway speeds hammers the hearing something awful. Even behind a screen & with a hat, the sound pressures are high. Some truck tires howl like crazy, right at ear level. Ear plugs--a must for cycling, also good for airline travel.

[Roadkingtrax]

When I pass a guy on the interstate on a bike, not wearing a lid, I look for ear plugs. Some guys have 'em, some don't. All day on a machine at highway speeds hammers the hearing something awful. Even behind a screen & with a hat, the sound pressures are high. Some truck tires howl like crazy, right at ear level. Ear plugs--a must for cycling, also good for airline travel.

Wind noise is a killer.

I've spent a good portion of my life in close proximity to loud ambient noise. Riding any motorcycle, or one compounded by a loud exhaust, causes very high levels of fatigue. By the end of the day that has to impact reaction time and judgment. My first long trip on a quieter motorcycle was a revelation, and exceedingly more enjoyable. Loud pipes garner attention only. Rapid acceleration, effective braking, and quick and confident handling keep you alive when something unexpected might happen.

[S.A. Boggs]

harley was the comeback darling when all the stock brokers, doctors and dentist decided they had to have a new one for the midlife crisis, -

That's my theory too. For a while everyone had one. Look up the stats, motorcycle wrecks are what caused the mid fifties accident rate to spike. So now it's back to normal; a old guy with a white beard and a cigarette(I have never understood smoking while riding a bike).

Back when I rode I had an off road rice burner with a sturdy brain bucket and a black cow from Sak's 5th Avenue.
Sam

[Allen]

Mine were rice burners as well. I liked the fact they were light, powerful, agile and responsive plus if I were to lay one down I could get it back up. I rode my brothers Harley Electroglide some but didn't care for it. If taking a long highway trip I could see riding such or a Goldwing but at 750 lbs it was like riding a school bus balanced on 2 wheels. If I have to have that much weight and metal around me give me a car. Like the open road? Then make it a convertible.

[S.A. Boggs]

Mine were rice burners as well. I liked the fact they were light, powerful, agile and responsive plus if I were to lay one down I could get it back up. I rode my brothers Harley Electroglide some but didn't care for it. If taking a long highway trip I could see riding such or a Goldwing but at 750 lbs it was like riding a school bus balanced on 2 wheels. If I have to have that much weight and metal around me give me a car. Like the open road? Then make it a convertible.

Electric Glide in Blue.
Sam

[Allen]

Electric Glide in Blue.
Sam

It was indeed. The bike was blue and it had the blue lights. It belonged to a cop who rode it in political events--don't know if it was for show or security but the tag was a government tag that stated "governor's escort". My brother was a cop at the time and it was loaned to him for some occasion (forgot what). He always wanted a Harley and fell in love with this one. When the time came to give it back he said "nope you're not getting it back". The owner who was obviously a friend of his sold it to him. After riding it a couple of years he was at a busy intersection (no stop light back then in 1978 or so) the sun was in his eyes but he thought he coast was clear but wasn't. He pulled out in front of a Chevrolet pickup and got hit. No one in the truck was hurt but it did total it. My brother was thrown about 30' and received minor injuries. Though the truck was totaled a new frame, tank and front fender put the Harley back on the road again. My brother would never ride it again. He parked it in one of my barns and I rode it occasionally to keep it road worthy. Having the blue lights on it though and me not being a cop I was slightly illegal riding it around so my rides were limited. He eventually sold it. We both miss our cycling days but realize it is all behind us now.