What To Make Of John T. Earnest?

[togor]

Nice clean cut young man, from a churchgoing family (Presbyterian), piano player, no history of trouble, decides to get an AR and shoot up a synagogue, then surrender himself to authorities. Put his racial politics aside, and just think about the ramifications for firearms ownership. I can see a day when ARs are treated as NFA-type firearms. Not banned (that ship has sailed), but no longer newly-manufactured and sold to the public. The drip, drip, drip of these shootings into the public mind makes the case that no matter how many people are responsible with them, the number that are irresponsible is now too high.

If ARs and other listed semis come to be treated as MGs, then I suppose the value on mine will go up, if I can sell them.

[m1ashooter]

Once again a killer that can think up such an evil, then kill innocent people yet gives up to the cops and doesn't shoot at them? This seems to be a pattern. What kind of drugs are these people taking, I'm starting to believe that maybe these people are victims of some kind of mind control. I know that's out there but I just wonder because nothing else makes sense.

At least these people fought back. Good for them.

[S.A. Boggs]

Their rational is normal for them at THAT time, that is their thinking. I have asked people why they did something and sometimes the answer is, "I don't know!" and one has to accept that. What influences their reasoning, many things and nothing comes to mind. I had one client under the influence of drugs shoot at imaginary creatures and kill a loved one because of the illegal drug. Others kill because of the "thrill" or "I just wanted to see how it feels to kill someone!" One inner city youth had played shoot em up video games and wanted to experience the real thing. Someone shot back wounding him, his reaction was that it hurts to get shot. A can of gas, box of powdered detergent and two other ingredients can make a deadly IED. Does society ban these items or register those who purchase them?
Sam

[togor]

It took one event to permanently change the way ammonium nitrate fertilizer is sold. Score isn't kept on the number of fields safely fertilized, or the number of ARs owned and used without incident. Score is only kept on the negative events. Restrict gasoline and detergent and essential activities (driving, laundry) are hampered. Restrict ARs and essential life goes on. I see a gun bubble not unlike the mortgage bubble, where the need to drive sales puts guns in the hands of casual users who are not grounded in a culture of responsibility. Some say we're deep into that bubble already.

[Art]

Guys like Josh Earnest are always going to be out there. The "nice guy" who doesn't reveal what's really going on in his head to the people he has day to day contact with. His social media posts definitely showed a troubling turn, especially his "dark web" stuff. I read his "manifesto" (which now appears to have been taken down) and he hates everybody who isn't a white northern European with Jews at the top of the page. He couches his hateful thoughts in Christian context (I suspect he didn't get enough out of church.) He definitely hates what are sometimes referred to as "race traitors." In fact, he loathes and despises Donald Trump as a Jew lover in his "manifesto" without actually using those words. Of course you'll never see his Trump comments on the MSM because they don't play into the narrative that Trump is a racist and if he wasn't in office this wouldn't be happening.

He also takes credit for torching a Mosque.

I can definitely see the day that AR and similar weapons are classified as NFA firearms, especially since the Heller decision said, almost in so many words, that the NFA is sacrosanct.

On to the armed response: The Rabbi didn't have the money to hire security so he had members he designated as armed responders. One of those people, a Border Patrol agent, was the fellow who returned fire. I went to a church that had a similar policy where at every service there were designated members who were "packin'."

[S.A. Boggs]

What most "normal" people don't understand are these anti-social types, types that we grew up with. People are willing to condamn what is used instead of who is using it. Liberals point to the down trodden masses, the misunderstood who they want to help abet at a distance. Early in my career I was chastised by cohorts on how I was dealing with this poor alcoholic women. More then once I was called on the carpet to explain why I was using a certain treatment and how it was helping her. Finally I got tired of it and asked that the client be transferred to a more understanding manager. Within a couple of weeks my boss wanted to know if I would take the client back as the new case manager couldn't handle her and the clients needs. I declined saying that the misery needed to be shared!
Society has misfits that need to be dealt with, some by permeant lockup or execution. Cops have been chastised by the political ward healers as too harsh, so the cops pull back and watch. Crime goes up and the ward healers want the cops to do something and the cops often do...just watch.
Sam

[S.A. Boggs]

Why not ask MAS 45, with his sexual talk apparently "he" knows something about anti social personality disorder. Very little difference in sexual attack or in killing other humans. Perhaps "he" will enlighten the rest of us.
Sam

[RED]

It was just another Trump screw up. He sent John to murder Jews but failed to give him adequate armament.

[Roadkingtrax]

It was just another Trump screw up. He sent John to murder Jews but failed to give him adequate armament.

That's an outlandish claim. Do you have a source for such an amazing account?

[barretcreek]

He used an AR-15 because the LSM told him that's the 'cool' weapon to use. Argue if you like but I'll stick to my position. The media gives these a-holes millions of dollars of fame they are incapable of earning any other way. The media thrives off of these scum and goes out of their way to promote them. The evening of the Newtown murders National Propaganda Radio had David Brooks and E.J.Dionne on and Brooks meekly suggested maybe the media should stop sensationalizing these fools by showing their faces, names and sad life stories. Dionne went out of his mind screaming the media should give them more attention.
Aside from that he's a hate filled jackal; hopefully Newsom will get his act together and let this guy be executed.

[retread12345]

Here , my wife and I have CCW with the pastors consent, we and other citizens are armed at services . Hypocritical, yes I am afraid so. We have many children in attendance, they must be protected

[togor]

Here , my wife and I have CCW with the pastors consent, we and other citizens are armed at services . Hypocritical, yes I am afraid so. We have many children in attendance, they must be protected

Don't see it as hypocritical when you put it that way. If someone inscribed The Ten Commandments on their grips, that would be messed up. But you're not about that.

[retread12345]

So, was he bullied by a rabbi ?? Abused by a priest ? Tortured by imams " WONDER what his history of meds will show ?

[Mark in Ottawa]

You could make a good case for legislating that the media be forbidden to name the perpetrators of mass shootings, at least until after their trials. That would deny them the notoriety that they crave. Unfortunately that would be a restriction of free speech. I believe that there are some media outlets that do that voluntarily; alas being responsible doesn't attract readers.

[p246]

He used an AR-15 because the LSM told him that's the 'cool' weapon to use. Argue if you like but I'll stick to my position. The media gives these a-holes millions of dollars of fame they are incapable of earning any other way. The media thrives off of these scum and goes out of their way to promote them. The evening of the Newtown murders National Propaganda Radio had David Brooks and E.J.Dionne on and Brooks meekly suggested maybe the media should stop sensationalizing these fools by showing their faces, names and sad life stories. Dionne went out of his mind screaming the media should give them more attention.
Aside from that he's a hate filled jackal; hopefully Newsom will get his act together and let this guy be executed.

Well said...