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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #1

    Tariff's

    Wanna bet that if the money collected from the tariff's went to "social programs" the socialists would be on board. As to it being a "tax" it is selective, don't buy a Chinese import and no tax to be paid...simple enough.
    Sam
  • Sandpebble
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 2196

    #2
    Just a polite question .... if the money collected from tarrifs doesn't go to social programs.... where does it go ?

    Don't buy Chinese sounds good ... but easier said than done. If we stopped buying Chinese how long will your family be employed by Walmart ?

    This isn't an attack Sam .... but how much are we willing to hurt ? Something Americans have never understood about the Chinese.... face ....

    they will be willing to hurt more than we could stand just to save face .

    Took me over half of Obamas presidency to get over GWs recession and am in no mood to suffer the likes of it again so soon .... but hey, I'm not a farmer that looks to be getting 14 Billion in aide.... again.... and neither are you.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      Farmers may need to cut back on the beans for a season. Go back to sunflowers or wheat or something like that. If they're all gonna plant beans when the price is down so that they qualify for government checks, then they're doing farming wrong.
      Last edited by togor; 05-15-2019, 02:55.

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      • m1ashooter
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 3220

        #4
        Markets and manufacturing plants will move to other countries. That is a fact. I'm in the furniture business. We started moving to vendors that aren't in China for our goods months ago.
        To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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        • Clark Howard
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2105

          #5
          Hey Sam, I think you offended the wanker. Regards, Clark

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #6
            What everybody is overlooking is that Trump is actually in favor of 0, zero, nada, tariffs. The problem is that if a country with 4 billion citizens puts an average of 10% tariffs on all their imports to their country... and you only have 0 - 5% tariffs on some of their products, you are going to go broke. How do you get them to lower their tariffs... Kissing ass like the Stooges want is going to make America into a turd world country

            Even Schumer and some of the other National/Socialists/Democrats are agreeing with Trump...

            Republicans are anxious about President Trump’s effort to impose new tariffs on China, but one of his staunchest political foes continues to defend him on
            Last edited by RED; 05-20-2019, 07:40.

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            • S.A. Boggs
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 8568

              #7
              Tariff's level the playing field for American goods or the reverse is to lower the American standard of living to the rest of the world to match the prices without tariff's. If a person wants that particular product from China there is nothing to stop one from buying that product. If China opens up their markets to equal access is one thing, to keep theirs's closed and ours open is suicide. Walmart will buy products from where they can be supplied from. There will be an adjustment period that is certain, China opens up or loses their market and their people are unemployed. I would rather the plants return to America then stay in China, American's working then Chinese.
              Sam

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by RED
                What everybody is overlooking is that Trump is actually in favor of 0, zero, nada, tariffs. The problem is that if a country with 4 billion citizens puts an average of 10% tariffs on all their imports to their country... and you only have 0 - 5% tariffs on some of their products, you are going to go broke.
                Wait....what? They tax their consumers and industry on imports, and you're going to go broke? This is so dumb.

                Only in Red's fevered mind is Trump against tariffs. Oh, he says he is? Yeah well he says a lot of things.

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #9
                  It appears the President is using this ploy to get the attention of the Mexican government and their allowing illegals to come north.
                  Sam

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                  • Allen
                    Moderator
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 10583

                    #10
                    Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                    It appears the President is using this ploy to get the attention of the Mexican government and their allowing illegals to come north.
                    Sam
                    Great. I'm all for it. I think this would have been a better approach with China by starting with a 5% tariff or even a 1% tariff a month or quarter. That way the boat wouldn't have been rocked so hard.

                    I think he has gotten everyone's attention. Next comes Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, France, UK, Germany and so on.

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #11
                      Other then a drink, what does Mexico have that the United states can't produce?
                      Sam

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                      • Allen
                        Moderator
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 10583

                        #12
                        Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                        Other then a drink, what does Mexico have that the United states can't produce?
                        Sam
                        That's just it. Mexico needs us a lot more than we need Mexico. They should have kept their house in order after the last war.

                        I would love to see the border completely closed to highway travel. Air and ship travel could still be available and produce could still be brought in by ship. It would be a lot easier to monitor invasion that way.

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                        • Roadkingtrax
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 7835

                          #13
                          RE: "needs us a lot more than we need it"

                          Could say the same for the "Gulf Coast of Alabama."
                          Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 05-31-2019, 11:52.
                          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Allen
                            That's just it. Mexico needs us a lot more than we need Mexico. They should have kept their house in order after the last war.

                            I would love to see the border completely closed to highway travel. Air and ship travel could still be available and produce could still be brought in by ship. It would be a lot easier to monitor invasion that way.
                            Closing the border like that is probably not possible -- but it's a damn good idea.

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                            • Allen
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 10583

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              Closing the border like that is probably not possible -- but it's a damn good idea.
                              We don't drive to Italy nor do we need to. We can still travel to Italy in other means though and still import/export with them. Should Mexico be any different? Being closer to me makes it all more important to close it due to all the abuse. Green cards, migrant workers? Cut welfare and citizens here will form lines to obtain jobs now being done by foreigners.

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