Fathers Day

[blackhawknj]

If you want to see unwanted children visit the financial office, especially of a state or community college. All the divorced children who are asked where's the financial disclosure form their fathers and they reply:
"My parents divorced when I was -- years old and we never heard from him again !" The noted post divorce researcher Dr. Judith Wallerstein found that 2/3 of the divorced fathers she surveyed gave the children of their dissolved marriages NO help whatsover-"Not one red cent!" When I quoted this figure to a financial aid officer I know she said the figure at her school was more like 90 %. Here in NJ child support is handled by the Probation Department. A woman who works there told me divorced fathers are required to fill out a form that asks " Do you want to be notified of 1. Problems in school 2. Problems with the law 3. Serious health problems 4. Emergency contact number " She said for the majority it's "NO-NO-NO-BLANK !" Recent surveys have found that fully 50 % of divorced fathers refuse all contact with "their" children, as one disgusted-and embittered-co-worker of mine put it : "She can raise those brats by herself !"

[Vern Humphrey]

If you want to see unwanted children visit the financial office, especially of a state or community college. All the divorced children who are asked where's the financial disclosure form their fathers and they reply:
"My parents divorced when I was -- years old and we never heard from him again !" The noted post divorce researcher Dr. Judith Wallerstein found that 2/3 of the divorced fathers she surveyed gave the children of their dissolved marriages NO help whatsover-"Not one red cent!" When I quoted this figure to a financial aid officer I know she said the figure at her school was more like 90 %. Here in NJ child support is handled by the Probation Department. A woman who works there told me divorced fathers are required to fill out a form that asks " Do you want to be notified of 1. Problems in school 2. Problems with the law 3. Serious health problems 4. Emergency contact number " She said for the majority it's "NO-NO-NO-BLANK !" Recent surveys have found that fully 50 % of divorced fathers refuse all contact with "their" children, as one disgusted-and embittered-co-worker of mine put it : "She can raise those brats by herself !"

I cannot understand how any man could cut off all contact and support to his children. No REAL man cold abandon his own.

[blackhawknj]

Some of us can't understand how some men are anti-gun. Or how a real woman could murder her child.

[S.A. Boggs]

I cannot understand how any man could cut off all contact and support to his children. No REAL man cold abandon his own.

Vern the reason is money, plain and simple. They make a small "donations" not a life time commitment to anyone. Back in 2003 was assigned to a not too bright client who was mommized severely. He got an order for a paternity test and I had to explain what the letter meant. He explained that the baby could not be his as it was only one time and the sex was her idea, not his...which I believed it was. When the test confirmed the child was his and that part of HIS MONEY EACH MONTH was going to be taken away for child payments. He now couldn't do what he had been doing and was really ticked off to say the least.
My daughter turns 31 and I still watch over her as if she needs it! Over the last three years the tables have been turned around and I am now looked over!
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

Vern the reason is money, plain and simple. They make a small "donations" not a life time commitment to anyone. Back in 2003 was assigned to a not too bright client who was mommized severely. He got an order for a paternity test and I had to explain what the letter meant. He explained that the baby could not be his as it was only one time and the sex was her idea, not his...which I believed it was. When the test confirmed the child was his and that part of HIS MONEY EACH MONTH was going to be taken away for child payments. He now couldn't do what he had been doing and was really ticked off to say the least.
My daughter turns 31 and I still watch over her as if she needs it! Over the last three years the tables have been turned around and I am now looked over!
Sam

Yeah, Sam, you're right. You ought to have to pass a test before you're allowed to father a child.

[togor]

Yeah, Sam, you're right. You ought to have to pass a test before you're allowed to father a child.

Curious. How is that enforced? Anyone have a big idea there?

[bruce]

What does it mean to be a father? In our post-modern world, what it means to be a father ain't what it used to be. In the now benighted era when my mother told my father that my brother and I were on the way, fathers were men who were coming out of the Great Depression/Good War era. They were the Greatest Generation. They gave our nation the golden age of the 1950's and 1960's. They led in the world of business. And most importantly they led at home. They taught their children well the meaning of love, devotion, integrity, moral courage, resilience, and commitment to God, wife and children, and nation. That is a small description of the man who was my father. It is a broad overview of the man that I, though imperfectly, have sought to be as a husband to my wife, as a father to my daughters and as a pastor to the churches which I have served. It is now 12 years since my little brother and I buried our father. I am looking now at a photograph taken only months before his death. I can no longer clearly remember the sound of his voice. But I feel his presence daily. And I thank God for the man who who gave his life to my mother and my brothers and I. Sincerely. bruce.

[Allen]

Now days being a father simply means DNA to many.

[S.A. Boggs]

What does it mean to be a father? In our post-modern world, what it means to be a father ain't what it used to be. In the now benighted era when my mother told my father that my brother and I were on the way, fathers were men who were coming out of the Great Depression/Good War era. They were the Greatest Generation. They gave our nation the golden age of the 1950's and 1960's. They led in the world of business. And most importantly they led at home. They taught their children well the meaning of love, devotion, integrity, moral courage, resilience, and commitment to God, wife and children, and nation. That is a small description of the man who was my father. It is a broad overview of the man that I, though imperfectly, have sought to be as a husband to my wife, as a father to my daughters and as a pastor to the churches which I have served. It is now 12 years since my little brother and I buried our father. I am looking now at a photograph taken only months before his death. I can no longer clearly remember the sound of his voice. But I feel his presence daily. And I thank God for the man who who gave his life to my mother and my brothers and I. Sincerely. bruce.

You are right Brother Bruce!
Sam

[blackhawknj]

DNA and a child support check.

[S.A. Boggs]

Curious. How is that enforced? Anyone have a big idea there?

?????
Sam

[togor]

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Sam

The idea of passing a test before achieving biological fatherhood. It has been suggested and seconded. I ask...how would such a rule, if adopted, be enforced?

[S.A. Boggs]

The idea of passing a test before achieving biological fatherhood. It has been suggested and seconded. I ask...how would such a rule, if adopted, be enforced?

The question you are asking is not needed as the authors were addressing an impossibility.
Sam