Migrant, migrants, migrants

[S.A. Boggs]

Boy life in Honduras must suck pretty bad for people to take to the road like that with their kids. And/or these people are pretty tough. And/or their G2 about what life will be like on the journey must be pretty bad. And/or their G2 about what awaits them at the board must be terrible. And/or conditions back home are judged to be so utterly hopeless as make the rest of it meaningless.

If you want them to stay where they are, and right now they have nothing there, then you have to put something there. If you insist that government guns south of the border start shooting the people who get on the move, well that will only make things worse, for the simple reason that people killing people in large numbers breeds a rot in any society that will debase it, bring it down. You want a wholly destabilized Mexico? Then force Mexico to become an even more violent land than it already is.

The solution that most people here insist that they want, which offers zero compromises in any direction, isn't in the offing. So I conclude that the situation must really not be all that bad. I mean, it's bad enough to get people pissed off politically, but not bad enough to cause any real threat to the nation. And thus all of the angst expressed about it here is just people letting off steam. If the border was really a problem (like say WW2), people would stop treating it like a hot button issue and instead think about real solutions that have lasting potential. But we don't see that and so I conclude that even the people who like to get pissed off about it don't see it as a serious problem. They just like getting pissed off for the entertainment value.

But how many of the asylum seekers are you now/going to take into your home and personally take care of so that the asylum seek won't at some time be made a government ward?
Sam

[Sandpebble]

But how many of the asylum seekers are you now/going to take into your home and personally take care of so that the asylum seek won't at some time be made a government ward?
Sam

maybe the same amount of those non aborted black babies you are willing to adopt in order to "save a life"

[togor]

Or maybe they, like myself, have sense enough to recognize that--terrible as the problem is--going to jail for fighting back, as that martyr for his homeland did in New Zealand, is not going to stop the invasion.

"Real solutions that have lasting potential" have been consistently thwarted by Dems, especially federal judges, because for THEM, it's absolutely NOT a serious problem! It's a Godsend for their strategy of obtaining a permanent majority by overwhelming the voting strength of the native white population!

CH your one concession is allowing work permits for single men only, no kids! If you ask the dairymen in your neck of the woods (and I encourage you to do this) they would tell you that they prefer family men, and they will explain why. Then you can go tell them why they're wrong and watch them roll their eyes at you.

I called it years ago. I said Trump can never adopt any policy that his base can figure out that they won't like, because it would kill the vibe at the rallies. Obviously a comprehensive change in immigration laws (which were written in a time when there was much less pressure) will demand some disposition of those already here, some for long periods of time. Personally, I don't think Trump has a problem with them, but business is business, and politics are politics, and he can't have someone yelling "Amnesty!" at a rally.

The position of the base remains that these people have to be hunted down by good squads and sent back to places that in the case of young people (arriving here as babies) don't even know. Productive people, paying taxes, earning a living. Why? Because they broke rules and rules must be enforced. If that's the case, then how about if we fill our prisons will all of those white rural pillheads who break the law every time they illegally lay hands on some Oxy? How about we fill our prisons with militia members who claim to be soverign and unbound by the laws of the Federal government? I can think of plenty of a-holes who commit minor offenses that should do hard time. Poachers, MFs who dump their garbage in public right-of-ways. People too lazy to clean their boats who thereby transfer invasive species further inland to new waters. And not-so-minor, businessmen who calculate that it's cheaper to hire a lawyer and buy politicians than comply with laws regarding wastewater treatment. Man, if it's a list of people who deserve to be behind wire that you want, I could come up with a dandy! And everyone could! So stop freaking out about Mexicans or Guatemalans being here already and think about what a reasonable immigration policy would look like for the decades to come, when the sh*t really starts to hit the fan due to climate-related disruption.

[togor]

maybe the same amount of those non aborted black babies you are willing to adopt in order to "save a life"

Oh snap!

[Roadkingtrax]

maybe the same amount of those non aborted black babies you are willing to adopt in order to "save a life"

Damn!

[S.A. Boggs]

maybe the same amount of those non aborted black babies you are willing to adopt in order to "save a life"

Ah I see that you are back...come in with another???
Sam

[clintonhater]

If that's the case, then how about if we fill our prisons will all of those white rural pillheads who break the law every time they illegally lay hands on some Oxy? I can think of plenty of a-holes who commit minor offenses that should do hard time. Poachers, MFs who dump their garbage in public right-of-ways. People too lazy to clean their boats who thereby transfer invasive species further inland to new waters. And not-so-minor, businessmen who calculate that it's cheaper to hire a lawyer and buy politicians than comply with laws regarding wastewater treatment.

Of course--jail (or execute) them all! (Except merely playing soldiers in a militia is foolish but no crime.) The big difference is that all these criminals have first to be CAUGHT in the act, which for many of these crimes is almost impossible, because they're always unwitnessed, & usually leave no traceable clues for cops to investigate, whereas the criminal invaders are actually in the hands of police! Yet are turned loose anyway!