Migrant, migrants, migrants

[dryheat]

You realize this isn't a one time thing? This is forever.

[Col. Colt]

And the answer is Simple - CLOSE THE BORDERS and END Immigration (a Moratorium on immigration and new citizenship for at least ten years) while we deport ALL illegals and require the rest to read and write and speak in English and either become real Americans - or leave. On their way out, photo, fingerprint, retina scan and DNA test each one. If we catch you here illegally again (you could have followed the law, after all) the minimum sentence should be five years in one of Sheriff Joe's desert tent camps, breaking big rocks into little ones and eating baloney sandwiches, sleeping on a cot with the other nice "immigrants".

Then we get the Supreme Court to acknowledge that the 14th Amendment DOES NOT mean their phony "Birthright Citizenship". Every illegal that gets to stay may not get to vote, but his two to four to six kids (that we pay welfare to, school and provide free everything) will get to - and they will all end up Democrat Voters. That is the only real End Game here - the Democrats need new voters in order to achieve a permanent Lock on Governing America - and this is the only way to get the needed guaranteed permanent dependent voters to give them a permanent majority. Stealing a country with foreign born votes..... CC

[clintonhater]

Every illegal that gets to stay may not get to vote, but his two to four to six kids (that we pay welfare to, school and provide free everything) will get to - and they will all end up Democrat Voters. That is the only real End Game here - the Democrats need new voters in order to achieve a permanent Lock on Governing America - and this is the only way to get the needed guaranteed permanent dependent voters to give them a permanent majority. Stealing a country with foreign born votes..... CC

Of course this is the "real End Game"--it's the ONLY rational explanation for all their obstructions, law suits, court orders, everything else they've done (such as sending lawyers to coach the invaders on what to tell US immigration) to make IMPOSSIBLE any semblance of border control.

All this is OBVIOUS! What's not obvious, in fact what's bewildering, is the refusal of Repub leaders to state this obvious truth explicitly for the benefit of all those (the majority, sadly) too preoccupied with the trivialities of their daily lives to pay attention to this transformation of the country, leaving Dems entirely free to spread the monstrous lie that their only concern is "humanitarian"!

[S.A. Boggs]

Perhaps this week will be the start of the national sweep to start the rid of illegals.
Sam

[togor]

It's a mistake to overlook the employers who want cheap labor. The people who come here are looking for work. Is it because Trump himself has dipped into the illegal labor pool that you're giving the GOP-oriented business class a pass and putting all the blame wholly on political opponents?

[togor]

Col. Colt--worth noting that at the federal level, the blue states, supposedly cesspools of government dependency, support the red states. Even moreso after the last federal tax bill. According to David From, what really chaps your hides is the idea that government benefits go to immigrants at all, which is to say non-whites, at a time when white working class people see their own wages stagnating. Frum (an avowed never-Trumper) might be laying it on a bit thick, but politics and race and economics in America have been intertwined since the begining. It's certainly a potent political play to stir up resentment of newcomers.

[clintonhater]

The people who come here are looking for work.

Does that include the THOUSANDS of kids?

[S.A. Boggs]

Does that include the THOUSANDS of kids?

Reality is the illegals DO NOT BELONG HERE! By being illegals "they" broke into my country, no different then breaking into my house. Why should I welcome a criminal into my home regardless OF THEIR RESONS. I fully expect my government to "Provide For The Common Defense" and removed the criminal from my country. Those American's who aid and abet must be jailed as accomplishes. "Our" three will strongly disagree and "but, but" my statement. In reply are "our" three willing to personally take in an asylum seeker and provide for the asylum seeker so that the asylum seeker will never become a pubic charge. If the answer is "no" or "silence" there whatever comment "they" utter is like CNN news totally fake!!!
Sam

[togor]

Does that include the THOUSANDS of kids?

You have kids? Is it really that hard to understand why they're trying to keep their families together? I'll explain: however flawed their risk assessment might be to your eyes, they're actually behaving as though their families are the most important thing.

[m1ashooter]

Round them up and ship them home. They broke our laws plain and simple. I don't care if they are coming here to look for work or to escape poverty or because of crime. Their problem is not my problem. I've researched the immigration requirements to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. I think we should change our laws and require the same thing for their people to immigrate here as they require if we want to immigrate to their country. Guess what all of them require a guaranteed income stream so the countries know that the new immigrants will not be dependent on government resources.

[clintonhater]

they're actually behaving as though their families are the most important thing.

Dragging them thousands of miles subject to exploitation or violence along the way from local gangs, subjecting them to the hazards of crossing the border, the possibility of detention if they're caught. The true reason for exposing their kids to these dangers is the expected pay-off: a better chance of being allowed to stay, due to the hysteria whipped up Dems.

But anyway, what do THEIR motives, objectives, intentions have to do with OUR laws?

[Vern Humphrey]

Dragging them thousands of miles subject to exploitation or violence along the way from local gangs, subjecting them to the hazards of crossing the border, the possibility of detention if they're caught. The true reason for exposing their kids to these dangers is the expected pay-off: a better chance of being allowed to stay, due to the hysteria whipped up Dems.

But anyway, what do THEIR motives, objectives, intentions have to do with OUR laws?

As I have pointed out before -- there were shots on TV of migrant kids on the tops of boxcars headed for the US. If YOU put YOUR kid on top of a boxcar, YOU would be arrested and your child would be taken from you by Child Protective Services.

[dryheat]

Un-accompanied minors. As young as fourteen or fifteen. Basically "runaways".

[togor]

Boy life in Honduras must suck pretty bad for people to take to the road like that with their kids. And/or these people are pretty tough. And/or their G2 about what life will be like on the journey must be pretty bad. And/or their G2 about what awaits them at the board must be terrible. And/or conditions back home are judged to be so utterly hopeless as make the rest of it meaningless.

If you want them to stay where they are, and right now they have nothing there, then you have to put something there. If you insist that government guns south of the border start shooting the people who get on the move, well that will only make things worse, for the simple reason that people killing people in large numbers breeds a rot in any society that will debase it, bring it down. You want a wholly destabilized Mexico? Then force Mexico to become an even more violent land than it already is.

The solution that most people here insist that they want, which offers zero compromises in any direction, isn't in the offing. So I conclude that the situation must really not be all that bad. I mean, it's bad enough to get people pissed off politically, but not bad enough to cause any real threat to the nation. And thus all of the angst expressed about it here is just people letting off steam. If the border was really a problem (like say WW2), people would stop treating it like a hot button issue and instead think about real solutions that have lasting potential. But we don't see that and so I conclude that even the people who like to get pissed off about it don't see it as a serious problem. They just like getting pissed off for the entertainment value.

[clintonhater]

If the border was really a problem (like say WW2), people would stop treating it like a hot button issue and instead think about real solutions that have lasting potential. But we don't see that and so I conclude that even the people who like to get pissed off about it don't see it as a serious problem.

Or maybe they, like myself, have sense enough to recognize that--terrible as the problem is--going to jail for fighting back, as that martyr for his homeland did in New Zealand, is not going to stop the invasion.

"Real solutions that have lasting potential" have been consistently thwarted by Dems, especially federal judges, because for THEM, it's absolutely NOT a serious problem! It's a Godsend for their strategy of obtaining a permanent majority by overwhelming the voting strength of the native white population!