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  • togor
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    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #31
    Originally posted by lyman
    interesting take,,


    I read it as the laws that we have now will not stop a person from doing a thing, so why have more laws for the TOOLS that person may use,

    why not outlaw what the person does (which is already a law,,,)


    the jackasses part is basically what Sam's D senator was saying in Sam's perspective,,

    he did not APPEAR to care for the victims, or any past victims,, just simply a time to play on emotions and pass another law,, (that will be a feel good measure, but not make a bit of difference,)

    he also is correct on Obama,, and to a lesser extent Clinton,

    had either been assassinated, we would have UK style laws,,

    thankfully that did not happen,
    You mean no law changes up to the moment that all autoloaders are regulated like NFA weapons, right? Or banned outright like bump stocks? Imagine: fingerprints on file, like a common criminal or MG owner, required for all centerfire autoloading firearm (pistol, rifle, shotgun) purchases, and tied into a LE searchable database. The folks worried about government tyranny would have a cow! And in some ways, that would be the point, because some of them, as we know, have a bit of an anti-social streak. And if you're a straw buyer, conducting business just got harder if at the stroke of a few keys, LE can know anyone in the country who has purchased more than X handguns in Y weeks. Like running a DL through the system in a routine traffic stop. People who say "new laws won't effect anything" lack imagination as to how intrusive a law is possible now at an affordable cost with Big Data being so cheap. If the number of new guns sold is dropped by 80% due to all of the hassles (without outright bans on any of it), then eventually the inventory of used guns will go down too. Gun banners take the long view. Fewer gun deaths next year than this year. Fewer still the year after, and so on. Progress. Nothing banned, but some restrictions and a feeling that the government is keeping an eye on who has what, taking some of the fun out of gun ownership for some people.

    And anyways, President Trump tells us now that there is tremendous interest in getting a terrific red flag and background check law passed. So there is that.
    Last edited by togor; 08-09-2019, 03:29.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #32
      do you want to wait 9 months to go buy your need firearm?? current NFA timelines for silencers is longer than that,,

      do you want DMV type registration? go stand in line and have your registration paperwork in line,,



      how about we just prosecute the criminals,, strengthen the data for background checks, and hold those that screw up responsible,,,,,,

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #33
        No I don't want any of that. So let's hope targeted actions, both proactive and reactive, get it done. Because if they don't, the conclusion of the majority will be that they still aren't doing enough. Remember, all of these other countries with stiffer gun laws and lower gun stats, including mass shootings, show the majority that it's just a matter of tighter regulation to get the desired result.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #34
          Originally posted by Sandpebble
          Since the OP started this thread with the description of how two poltitians appeared......

          how does he... or any of us really ... feel about the photo of the Prez and the First " Lady" holding the 2 month old orphan of two El Paso victims ?

          Nice suit ... nice dress and make up... beautifull smiles and a fxcking thumbs up
          I believed you that such a pic existed, and then I found it. I've said this before: to be a die-hard Trump supporter, you really have to overlook a lot. I mean, who in their right mind would pose like that?

          Last edited by togor; 08-09-2019, 04:49.

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #35
            A guy running for president?
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #36
              Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
              A guy running for president?
              Well the lady to Melania's left gets it. She's the rest of us in that photo.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #37
                Togor, your reaching. The lady is sedate. It's a moment.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • S.A. Boggs
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 8568

                  #38
                  Originally posted by dryheat
                  Togor, your reaching. The lady is sedate. It's a moment.
                  Good luck with that thought!
                  Sam

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #39
                    I see it in the eyes, Dryheat. Hey if Consoler-in-chief is not Trump's metiƩr, well that's not a crime. But posing with the little orphaned tyke like he's a war trophy in an official White House photo is jarring to many people.

                    After Newtown, Obama went to visit. No press or White House cameras were allowed when he met with families, but a few folks snapped their own. The vibe is different....more normal.

                    Photos of the President meeting with and comforting members of the Newtown community have spread rapidly on social media


                    George W Bush was said to be good at it too. And I did see video of Trump at a Red Cross center in Alabama talking to people, and he did alright. So maybe he's not completely bad at it. But being a germophobe puts him at a disadvantage, and for God's sake, lose the thumb.
                    Last edited by togor; 08-10-2019, 03:43.

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                    • S.A. Boggs
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 8568

                      #40
                      web1_officials-blood.jpg
                      One gave a political speech, the other gave...
                      Sam

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                      • Sandpebble
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 2196

                        #41
                        Just can't bring yourself to critique the man ...... no matter what.... can ya Sam ?

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Sandpebble
                          Just can't bring yourself to critique the man ...... no matter what.... can ya Sam ?
                          And you are a wanabe lawyer, unable to pass the bar!
                          Sam

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                          • Sandpebble
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 2196

                            #43
                            Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                            And you are a wanabe lawyer, unable to pass the bar!
                            Sam
                            ??

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