Just saw today, that Trump does things differently.

[togor]

scripted testimony!!!

OMG,,


likely written by the best writers in hollywood,,,,

The oath means nothing to you? Pretty cynical.

[lyman]

politics,,, you of all should get it

[RED]

The oath means nothing to you? Pretty cynical.

You have never told the truth. You would swear on a Bible that Donald Trump
Is a Russian spy. You would swear on the Bible that Trump is sexually molesting his daughter Ivanka and his son Barron. You would swear on the Bible that Trump never won the election .

You would swear on the Bible that the moon is made of cheese.

You are a fake, and a fraud. A manipulator and a hater...

[togor]

On the one hand, articulate, intelligent people with records of honorable service to the country, who know right from wrong, taking an oath and telling the country what they saw. On the other hand, an angry mob reacting with bile and cynicism. Hmmm....tough call.

[lyman]

You have never told the truth. You would swear on a Bible that Donald Trump
Is a Russian spy. You would swear on the Bible that Trump is sexually molesting his daughter Ivanka and his son Barron. You would swear on the Bible that Trump never won the election .

You would swear on the Bible that the moon is made of cheese.

You are a fake, and a fraud. A manipulator and a hater...

I would agree on one of those 4,,, and say it was the pot,, chatting to the kettle

[Sandpebble]

Information is quite wrong. I checked Vendman’s dates of rank with particular interest in when he was promoted to O4 (2008) and O5 (2015) which would have put him at 15 years of total active federal service for promotion to O5. This time in service is quite typical for most officers and is exceeded by those below the grade who are promoted at 14 years. He was obviously not passed over as my son was promoted to O5 in 2017 with 15 years of service and was promoted to intermediate ranks exactly two years after Vendman without being passed over. Now, what it is the next step – some verbiage casting doubts on his CIB, Ranger Tab or the Purple Heart?

“2. Blocked from being removed from his position as a "security risk" by a Obama appointed superior. Give me a reference or source other than some mysterious buddy of yours”

The position of defense minister was treated as a joke by all parties concerned, particularly Vendman. Reference for the retired O5 being named to post in Estonia needs to be provided

I would like to Thank You Oscars ... very much in fact ... for this post.

It is about time all of us... veterans and non veterans alike started to call out against all of those that ridicule life long protectors of our Constitution ...

We have a New York real estate tycoon that has convinced us all that the likes of long time veterans such as Vindman , members of the FBI, CIA , NSA and life long Foriegn Service are POS's.

shame on us for allowing them to be denegrated by any one at all .... let alone by someone who has not accomplished anything that they have

[togor]

I would like to Thank You Oscars ... very much in fact ... for this post.

It is about time all of us... veterans and non veterans alike started to call out against all of those that ridicule life long protectors of our Constitution ...

We have a New York real estate tycoon that has convinced us all that the likes of long time veterans such as Vindman , members of the FBI, CIA , NSA and life long Foriegn Service are POS's.

shame on us for allowing them to be denegrated by any one at all .... let alone by someone who has not accomplished anything that they have

There's another book out. This one by a former guest host at Fox News. He explained how they build their programming. If a story comes out that they don't like, they think of a counter-narrative they can use as vehicle to try to blunt the story. Consequently former host was not surprised to see Vindman cast as a foreigner of suspect loyalties.

The research says disinformation sticks better if packed into narrative form. I've seen it here....some bad stuff comes out and the faithful hold their breath, waiting for the narrative to be rolled out. Most likely people aren't even aware of how they are played.

[rayg]

We are all played, for example I noticed in the past that almost every news site you provide links to in order to promote your take, are far left liberal sites. I do the same with conservative sites. As we are not personally in the know, we can only rely on the sites we are attracted to, to get the news to which we form our opinions. In other words as you say played, lol, Ray

[lyman]

We are all played, for example I noticed in the past that almost every news site you provide links to in order to promote your take, are far left liberal sites. I do the same with conservative sites. As we are not personally in the know, we can only rely on the sites we are attracted to get the news to which we form our opinions. In others as you say played, lol, Ray

exactly ,

some sites are known to be far right, or right leaning

many many more 'common' sites (Vox, Slate, and the majority of the new channel sites) are left , some to the very far edge, left


each and every one of us may read 4-10 sites, and still come up with varying possibilities,,

[togor]

So in other words, if one doesn't like the source, they can ignore the facts. At Fox News it's a business model. That should be plain to anyone who watches their programming, and plenty of ex-Fox people tell us the same thing. It's also the model at MSNBC, but two things there: first, no one here watches MSNBC (I don't have cable or dish and never will), and second, the antidote for right wing BS is not left wing BS. It's tuning out the BS period.

Added: it is possible to get a sampling of Fox New programming via the Internet.

[lyman]

So in other words, if one doesn't like the source, they can ignore the facts. At Fox News it's a business model. That should be plain to anyone who watches their programming, and plenty of ex-Fox people tell us the same thing. It's also the model at MSNBC, but two things there: first, no one here watches MSNBC (I don't have cable or dish and never will), and second, the antidote for right wing BS is not left wing BS. It's tuning out the BS period.

Added: it is possible to get a sampling of Fox New programming via the Internet.

not at all, but that has been your belief,

all I said was to take it all with an understanding where that info is from, and who paid for it,



free country, somewhat,, so you keep on believing

[Gun Smoke]

The only function of a reporter or journalist (call them what you will) is to REPORT the news. Not make up the news.

These people can and do influence others so they should be held personally liable for stating the truth and only the truth and not assumptions or lies.

Since no one is above the law these people involved should be jailed and fined along with their agency's having gag orders, fines and blackouts imposed upon them.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=togor;568764]So in other words, if one doesn't like the source, they can ignore the facts.

Ha ha, depends if that source is presenting the true facts or their own version of them....

[Roadkingtrax]

The only function of a reporter or journalist (call them what you will) is to REPORT the news. Not make up the news.

These people can and do influence others so they should be held personally liable for stating the truth and only the truth and not assumptions or lies.

Since no one is above the law these people involved should be jailed and fined along with their agency's having gag orders, fines and blackouts imposed upon them.

Russia Propaganda, again.

[Gun Smoke]

Russia Propaganda, again.

You and your friends hillary and kerry sure do love those Russians.

It's practically all you talk about.