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  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #46
    Originally posted by Gun Smoke
    I hate it everytime that happens.

    BTW my 66's are Mohawk Brown rather than the Apache Black.
    omg,, that may trigger Togor some more,


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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #47
      Originally posted by lyman
      you seem to miss the point that it is legal to build a firearm if you want to,

      you also seem to think regulations should be based on the size or power of the bullet or cartridge,

      how can firearms be bad? bad as in not work well, or bad as in do bad things,,, if it the latter,, then *****************sigh******************


      how is doing a legal thing a loophole?

      why would criminals care?


      anti social types have been around since people have been around,, betting most of those groups are already on somebodies radar,,,, and what does that have to do with the conversation,
      The loophole is that a criminal can legally purchase, own, and resell gun kits to his heart's content and with no burden upon the seller. He can't finish them without breaking the law, but that's a small step of a few hours when needed.

      By definition, loopholes are legal. You didn't know that?

      a means of escape; especially : an ambiguity or omission in the text through which the intent of a statute, contract, or obligation may be evaded; a small opening through which small arms may be fired; a similar opening to admit light and air or to permit observation… See the full definition


      An eligible gun owner buying and finishing a kit is not exercising a loophole. A convicted felon doing the same is exploiting the loophole that allows him to legally acquire everything he needs to have a complete and functional firearm but for a little bit of elbow grease and some tools. I can't make this any more simple for you. I'm sorry.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11269

        #48
        Originally posted by togor
        The loophole is that a criminal can legally purchase, own, and resell gun kits to his heart's content and with no burden upon the seller. He can't finish them without breaking the law, but that's a small step of a few hours when needed.

        By definition, loopholes are legal. You didn't know that?

        a means of escape; especially : an ambiguity or omission in the text through which the intent of a statute, contract, or obligation may be evaded; a small opening through which small arms may be fired; a similar opening to admit light and air or to permit observation… See the full definition


        An eligible gun owner buying and finishing a kit is not exercising a loophole. A convicted felon doing the same is exploiting the loophole that allows him to legally acquire everything he needs to have a complete and functional firearm but for a little bit of elbow grease and some tools. I can't make this any more simple for you. I'm sorry.
        you seem to want to pick and choose what you want to answer, (and add a little comment to show your arrogance again,,, )

        still legal for you and I,, so if that criminal person does, then they break the law, and hopefully get caught and punished,

        but yet,, you would rather make something illegal, that needs not be, and punish everyone,, while that criminal still keeps on being a criminal,

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #49
          Originally posted by lyman
          but yet,, you would rather make something illegal, that needs not be, and punish everyone,, while that criminal still keeps on being a criminal,
          First you misstate what a loophole is, then you misstate my position. I never said ban kits. I did state, repeatedly, that if criminals turn to kits in a big way it might be worth thinking about treating them the same as firearms for purchasing purposes. My God! What a horrible thought! I don't mind having exchanges with you if you're going to actually read my posts. Instead you just assume you know what is written, scan until a word triggers you, and go from there. You call my replies to that arrogance. I call them pointing out obvious mistakes that need not have been made but for a little more time between reading and posting.

          IIRC you got ornery at me once when I presumed to know your mind on a subject. But you practice that all the time. You think you know my mind, what is behind the words, but you don't.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #50
            I never mistook what a loophole is, that is your post that even mentions one,,

            you position is clear,

            no one mentioned ban but you,

            and you still want to restrict, vs actually doing something about the criminal,

            big assumptions on trigger,, since you are triggered often when someone does not agree with you,

            arrogance, in the way you post, and comments you make, trying to trigger someone, that is your way, it's been proven time and again, and does not work on all,

            now you are suddenly defensive, imagine that

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