Iranian ally taking part in the attacks on our embassy visited Obama...

[Vern Humphrey]

Uranium. Look it up.

The Iranians don't affect this forum. Togor does.

And he knows everything -- even things he never heard about until today.

PS When it comes to nuclear weapons, I'm a Prefix 5, if anyone knows what that means.

[togor]

So a lot of smoke from GS but nothing of substance to add. Okey dokey.

His claim is that any country can gin up a few nukes, or if they can't the Russians and Chinese will gladly help them along, so hey why worry about something as silly as non-proliferation. I guess he could try that line of argument out on the Israelis and see how far he gets.

Okay, GS, here you go, without even having to check the internet--

Uranium bombs are comparatively easy to assemble, just two slugs of sub-critical mass hammered together by an explosive charge. The hard part is enrichment, getting the % of U-235 high enough. That is the process of enrichment from refined ore that is almost entirely U-238. They use centrifuges and it takes a ton of work. Remember stuxnet? We snuck it into Iran on thumb drives and it wrecked their centrifuge plant when it got to the controller PCs.

Plutonium bombs on the other hand skirt the enrichment issue but require a running reactor to produce Pu-239 from U-238. That and the fact that Plutonium bombs are much harder to set off to get a good yield, on account of the way the material reacts as it nears criticality. "Fat Man" (dropped on Nagasaki) was a Plutonium bomb--we actually built both types of A-bomb in WW2, incredibly enough. In that bomb the Plutonium was a hollow sphere that was crushed with an implosion shock wave.

These are not garage operations to produce these bombs. If GS has something other than an opinion to argue otherwise, I'd love to read it.

[Gun Smoke]

If GS has something other than an opinion to argue otherwise, I'd love to read it.

Here is the whole history of Iran's nuclear program that is common knowledge. You may need to find an interpreter. It's in English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_program_of_Iran

[Roadkingtrax]

PS When it comes to nuclear weapons, I'm a Prefix 5, if anyone knows what that means.

Not sure the Army had many nukes for deployment outside of artillery shells, and tactical backpacks in 1959/1960. A short lived program, that gave way to the more modern NBC training the DOD uses today.

[togor]

Someone say atomic artillery?

[lyman]

So a lot of smoke from GS but nothing of substance to add. Okey dokey.

His claim is that any country can gin up a few nukes, or if they can't the Russians and Chinese will gladly help them along, so hey why worry about something as silly as non-proliferation. I guess he could try that line of argument out on the Israelis and see how far he gets.

Okay, GS, here you go, without even having to check the internet--

Uranium bombs are comparatively easy to assemble, just two slugs of sub-critical mass hammered together by an explosive charge. The hard part is enrichment, getting the % of U-235 high enough. That is the process of enrichment from refined ore that is almost entirely U-238. They use centrifuges and it takes a ton of work. Remember stuxnet? We snuck it into Iran on thumb drives and it wrecked their centrifuge plant when it got to the controller PCs.

Plutonium bombs on the other hand skirt the enrichment issue but require a running reactor to produce Pu-239 from U-238. That and the fact that Plutonium bombs are much harder to set off to get a good yield, on account of the way the material reacts as it nears criticality. "Fat Man" (dropped on Nagasaki) was a Plutonium bomb--we actually built both types of A-bomb in WW2, incredibly enough. In that bomb the Plutonium was a hollow sphere that was crushed with an implosion shock wave.

These are not garage operations to produce these bombs. If GS has something other than an opinion to argue otherwise, I'd love to read it.

wow,


I learned that in grade school history,


back when they actually taught history in school

[togor]

They may or may not have taught this one below. One wonders how many Norks got zapped in their bomb effort.

[RED]

And he knows everything -- even things he never heard about until today.

PS When it comes to nuclear weapons, I'm a Prefix 5, if anyone knows what that means.

I was never a Nuclear Employment Officer but I did monitor nuclear bombs being loaded onto A-6 Intruders, I also was on the 5 minute alert catapult when the USS Saratoga was in the midst of transferring nukes to the USS Independence. We were launched to intercept an unknown aircraft approaching from Egyptian airspace. It was a difficult intercept because the bogey was a Russian propeller driven seaplane flying at 100 feet over the water at about 200 knots. We had to go to full flaps to stay with them when it flew down the deck of the Saratoga at 100 feet with cameras rolling.

[m1ashooter]

Well troops here is the elephant in the room that no one really wants to talk about. Who let these militia people into the Green Zone in the first place and who allowed the now dead General to come and go as he pleased?

A little bit of research tells this about the Green Zone.
The Green Zone was completely surrounded by high concrete blast walls, T-Walls and barbed wire fences with access only available through a handful of entry control points, all controlled by Coalition troops.[7] It is this security that made the Green Zone the safest area of Baghdad,[7] and gave its name colloquially as "the bubble".[8] The southern and eastern side of the zone is protected by the Tigris River – the only entrance to the zone from this side is the Arbataash Tamuz (July 14) Bridge (named for the date that the former regime came to power).

So unless a lot of this wall has been taken down there would still be limited access points controlled by the Iraqi Security Forces. Iraq's leadership or someone in a leadership position is clearly responsible for this attack against our Embassy and allowing this dead General access to the country. By the way he under a travel ban by the UN. I guess he didn't pay attention to that.

Bring our people home.