Only one thing could hurt Trump's re-election ...

[dogtag]

If something happens to the economy, and you'd better
believe the democrat media will keep on trying to make
it tank or to make it look as though it's going to tank.
The soaring debt is their best bet so they'll probably
concentrate on that. At least, that's my bet.
If Michelle jumps in, which I'm still thinking she will,
she could bring Trump's winning numbers down but not
enough to deny him a second term.
Bernie who I thought early on would be the nominee
will have to overcome the bombardment coming from
the democrats who hate him with a passion because they
know that an out and out communist doesn't stand a
snowball's chance in you know where.
Like Clinton said "It's the economy stupid"

[Roadkingtrax]

...also if he touches Grandma's Social Security. Oops.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/u...-security.html

He'll protect that like he does the 2nd Amendment, Deployed US Troops, and his daughter Tiffany.

[JohnMOhio]

I tend to agree with you on this one dogtag. I am just surprised at how many people out there just don't understand what socialism is all about. How can they really support Bernie at all. Is it possible all his supporters are already on the gravy train?

[Gun Smoke]

I tend to agree with you on this one dogtag. I am just surprised at how many people out there just don't understand what socialism is all about. How can they really support Bernie at all. Is it possible all his supporters are already on the gravy train?

It's not just Bernie, it's all of them, though Bernie may be the worse.

[togor]

Funny thing about socialism....how it sneaks up on people.

If Bernie went to Knoxville and called for socialized electricity production, what would they say? What could they say? The state of Tennessee and bits of border states has socialized electricity, and people are fine with it.

[dryheat]

Socialized electricity? I guess. I know what he means but 1930's "socialism" was just progression from the dark ages for a lot of the country. Now it means free cell phones, which I guess is kind of a form of electricity for people who are still in the dark ages communication wise(I'm a little surprised how this comparison went). OK, maybe free cell phones, but not free sex changes.

[Gun Smoke]

Socialized electricity?

Yep, that's where everyone gets "free" electricity except for those who work, which pay for everyone else.

The democrats today want: Socialized ___________________

Fill in the blank with anything you desire.

[togor]

TVA

Added: socialized and subsidized are not exactly the same thing, although given politics they run together often.

Health care for seniors is both. Wall Street privatizes profit and socializes loss whenever they can.

There's plenty to criticize about socialism, but also things that are popular even among Republicans. Unfortunately few seem capable of an honest discussion and opposing socialism has devolved to opposing government involvement in that stuff that those people care about but we don't.

[Vern Humphrey]

It's not just Bernie, it's all of them, though Bernie may be the worse.

Remember what George Orwell said, "Socialists don't love the poor, they hate the rich." Hatred is a powerful motivator.

[dryheat]

Hatred is a powerful motivator.-
I'm darned sure it is. "I love hate", I heard that somewhere but I don't know where. But I like it. Kind of like Archie's greatest line; "Gawd, I hate fun". Hate has various levels. From the short term; I hate this job to real crazy. Festering impotence fosters hate. Better to stand up and say, that's enough and relieve the pressure. Unless your wrong in the first place then sit still.

[Johnny P]

Funny thing about socialism....how it sneaks up on people.

If Bernie went to Knoxville and called for socialized electricity production, what would they say? What could they say? The state of Tennessee and bits of border states has socialized electricity, and people are fine with it.

Is it your thought that people on TVA get free electricity? Residential customers on TVA pay about 9 cents a kwh, and on my public utility I am paying about 10 cents per kwh. I will attribute the 1 cent to the difference in cost of hydro vs. nuclear generation.

Best read up on why TVA was actually developed.

[togor]

Is it your thought that people on TVA get free electricity? Residential customers on TVA pay about 9 cents a kwh, and on my public utility I am paying about 10 cents per kwh. I will attribute the 1 cent to the difference in cost of hydro vs. nuclear generation.

Best read up on why TVA was actually developed.

No! Again, socialized and subsidized are two different things. But the government went into the Tennessee River Valley in part because capitalism had not or could not. So the initial investment in flood control and economic development was subsidized by taxpayers of the forty eight states. If today the TVA is self-supporting (non entirely clear if that will be true when eventual nuke plant decommissioning costs are added up) it remains true that the TVA is a government-owned corporation, and not unpopular. Socialized electricity for Tennessee meeting with popular approval.

BTW I used to do a few projects for the Chattanooga office. Got the hard hat tour of the Raccoon Mountain pumped hydro plant. Had time to kill once so a cabbie took me on a tour where Reggie White grew up.

[Gun Smoke]

No! Again, socialized and subsidized are two different things.

They're also the same. Government hand-outs at taxpayers expense.

[Vern Humphrey]

They're also the same. Government hand-outs at taxpayers expense.

Exactly right -- what you give to a man what he has not earned, you must take from another what he has earned.

[togor]

They're also the same. Government hand-outs at taxpayers expense.

The government subsidized agriculture, but doesn't take ownership of the farms. Private sector companies will subsidize money losing divisions with profits from other operations in pursuit of a strategic goal. The US road system is largely socialized and subsidized by taxpayer revenue, with toll roads like I90 east of Chicago being government owned through the toll road authority but supported by user fees as opposed to general revenue. And of course there is the military.