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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Early voting...

    A close friend of mine since 1960 just told me he was proud of voting early... Hello, early voting was created by the Democrats so their voters could vote many times. Vote early and if your candidate dies before the election... your vote is wasted.

    Everybody that votes should be registered, a U.S. Citizen, a non felon, and have a photo ID. If not why can't Beijing, China residents vote anywhere, any number of times?

    The Democrats want to give illegal immigrants far more benefits than a citizen, born in 1944 and that worked for 55 years and raised a family that are productive citizens. For example... Mass. has just decided that if you are an illegal migrant driving a car, you can't be arrested for that but if you are a Mass. citizen that has a job and car insurance, but your DL expired yesterday... you will be arrested.

    There has been a Highway to Welfare for 50+ years. It starts in Chicago then South on I-55 to St. Louis, Cape Girardeau, then Memphis TN, Jackson MS, and on to New Orleans. A paid electric bill and a P.O. Box is all that is needed to established residency. Required SS numbers can be for kids 16 years old... There are caravans of Cadillacs up and down I-55 and I-57 and of course the electric bill and P.O. box in each town gets you $1,000 - $3,000 welfare benefits per month per every spot...

    Every voter ought to have to prove citizenship with a photo ID. Every State will issue a photo ID for free if you have proof of citizenship... (a birth certificate works), If you ain't a citizen you should not be allowed to vote,,, Period.
    Last edited by RED; 02-20-2020, 04:41.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #2
    so no voter registration in Mo?


    Va has had voter registration, and it is easy,

    show a ID Card, recite your address, and vote,

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    • Roadkingtrax
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 7835

      #3
      My state requires a ID and verification to vote in any capacity.

      Must be spreading disinformation again.
      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        How often do candidates die before the election? Sure, in MO the one time, but in general it's not a huge problem.
        Last edited by togor; 02-20-2020, 05:18.

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        • RED
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11689

          #5
          Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
          My state requires a ID and verification to vote in any capacity.

          Must be spreading disinformation again.
          In 17 states there is no requirement for a photo ID. In 15 states there is no "document," required.

          https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi.../voter-id.aspx
          Last edited by RED; 02-20-2020, 05:45.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by RED
            In 17 states there is no requirement for a photo ID. In 15 states there is no "document," required.
            Well now one would have to examine those states and see how their elections run before rushing to judgement.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              Well now one would have to examine those states and see how their elections run before rushing to judgement.
              ...and prove not one Republican has ever been elected in those states.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                Well now one would have to examine those states and see how their elections run before rushing to judgement.
                Well now where am I making this stuff up? Go ahead and tell us where the link is wrong! You rush to judgement every time you post your lies... So, go back to the link and examine the states that violate your voting standards. And please tell us how you are going to force these States to follow your rules.

                Have at it dude... You are smarter than Hillary Clinton and she is the smartest person in the world!

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                  ...and prove not one Republican has ever been elected in those states.
                  well,


                  here in Va,, the R party is too busy fighting among themselves and bickering over things that help the D's get elected,, to worry about voter fraud,,

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RED
                    Well now where am I making this stuff up? Go ahead and tell us where the link is wrong! You rush to judgement every time you post your lies... So, go back to the link and examine the states that violate your voting standards. And please tell us how you are going to force these States to follow your rules.

                    Have at it dude... You are smarter than Hillary Clinton and she is the smartest person in the world!
                    Which states? What is your 15?

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                    • rayg
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7444

                      #11
                      Red don't work your self up....
                      They are just giving you a hard time''....
                      Last edited by rayg; 02-21-2020, 03:15.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Ray, if Red can't properly develop an argument, then it's on him. He says 15 states....and your imagination is supposed to do the rest. What states? And what if...these states have no fraud problem? Wouldn't that undercut the rationale for the extra eligibility rules?

                        Red needs to develop his argument. Not too much to ask.

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                        • rayg
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 7444

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Roadkingtrax;574948]Red needs to develop his argument. Not too much to ask.

                          Yes Wisconsin does that and which eliminates any voter qualification problems..Can't see why other states couldn't do that.. I agree with Red that everybody that votes should be registered, a U.S. Citizen, a non felon, and have a photo ID.....

                          Togor Quote......."Red needs to develop his argument. Not too much to ask"....

                          He did! Didn't you read what he said!.... He said "that every voter ought to have to prove citizenship with a photo ID"...Not too hard to understand, is it?...
                          Last edited by rayg; 02-21-2020, 04:00.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11269

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Which states? What is your 15?
                            sounds like you have a homework assignment,

                            follow the link in his post (#5)


                            In 17 states there is no requirement for a photo ID. In 15 states there is no "document," required.

                            https://www.ncsl.org/research/electi.../voter-id.aspx
                            Last edited by RED; 02-20-2020 at 06:45.

                            and let us know,

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Red's link works but yours is busted.

                              Observation #1: Plenty of Republicans still get elected in legislatures where "traditional" voter registration rules apply (simple practices, not photo ID).

                              Observation #2: States where the GOP has sought to gain advantage by suppressing young/poor/minority turnout more likely to show up among the states with strong ID required. NC was among them but a court decision threw out their law.

                              Observation #3: Since we don't have any strong data of widespread voter fraud in this state or that, just strong feelings about the subject, there is no way to correlate strength of ID requirement with rates of fraud.

                              IDs are a voter suppression mechanism.

                              Now interestingly enough there has been talk of late that Trump has been trying to expand his coalition to include traditionally low-turnout voters of the type most easily suppressed by strong ID rules. My guess is that if they got hard data that his voters were getting caught in ID issues, and it was hurting their performance at the polls, they would change their tune so fast heads would spin.
                              Last edited by togor; 02-21-2020, 05:02.

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