Greyhound will STOP Border Patrol agents from checking buses for illegals

[rayg]

Greyhound says it will STOP Border Patrol agents from boarding buses to make immigration checks on passengers.

I bet half of their income is from illegal passengers...So you can understand why they don't want checks...Sanctuary buses..Lol

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cks-buses.html

[S.A. Boggs]

Interfering with a law enforcement officer in the performance of their duties comes to mind.
Sam

[togor]

So warrants are a thing of the past now for the base? Imagine if the cops siezed Giuliani's files without a warrant? The howls! Greyhound says... we're a private company running a legal business. If you're going to interfere with that business, then show probable cause to a judge, and get a damn warrant.

How is that not a 100% Conservative position?

[rayg]

Of course you side with illegals, why would I expect different from a liberal. I should have known...Lol

[lyman]

seems it would be easier to just have a car/van/whatever at the stop, or where they pick up the folks,,,

if the bus is not crossing a border,, then why bother?

[togor]

Of course you side with illegals, why would I expect different from a liberal. I should have known...Lol

Read again.

Siding with:

1. Private companies being free from government intrusion while operating within the law.

2. Government agencies being forced to follow the rules.

Yeah I know: you want you want, and damn anybody who has a problem with that. That's not conservative either.

[Vern Humphrey]

seems it would be easier to just have a car/van/whatever at the stop, or where they pick up the folks,,,

if the bus is not crossing a border,, then why bother?

The Border Patrol isn't required to have a warrant in order to stop and search a vehicle -- nor is the Coast Guard required to have a warrant to stop and search a ship. It's been that way since those organizations were formed.

[togor]

A link from people who made it their business to know the rules:

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone/

[dryheat]

That's what got sheriff Joe in trouble. But if it quacks like duck and walks like a duck and says, No Ingles it might be a duck.

[S.A. Boggs]

Read again.

Siding with:

1. Private companies being free from government intrusion while operating within the law.

2. Government agencies being forced to follow the rules.

Yeah I know: you want you want, and damn anybody who has a problem with that. That's not conservative either.

How about simply stopping the bus on any highway and do a K9 walkaround. Drugs are trafficked this way and ARE ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW regardless of what any state says.
Sam

[rayg]

A search of a vehicle and persons within the vehicle can be legally made with out a warrant if there is "probable cause" that a crime is being committed. This is because a vehicle is mobile and a bus is not a home unless used as one. Of course probable cause needs some information or probably cause. more then just a guess that there is an illegal on board . However It's possible that once it's established via past incidents, or arrests of illegals, that a number of buses in certain locations have been are found to contain illegals. That may be strong enough to have set precedent to allow certain buss's to be searched with out a warrant at will...
Personally I don't think the bus companies would like if the police started to detain their buss's until a warrant is obtained. Which may take hours and the bus company would have a lot of unhappy customers,.

[dogtag]

As I recall, Border Agents have guns. Do Greyhound drivers have guns ?

[S.A. Boggs]

One of my clients called "unfair" when the S.O with a warrant was searching for what was named and found something else. My client argued since the contraband was not named in the warrant it could not be seized and he arrested.
Sam

[rayg]

Ha, Ha, incident to a legal search warrant and any thing not legal that is also in clear view during the search can be also seized..

[dogtag]

Ha, Ha, incident to a legal search warrant and any thing not legal that is also in clear view during the search can be also seized..

So, if they're searching for something Big, then something found in a Small drawer is exempt from seizure ?
Of course if it's a severed limb it might not pass muster.