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  • togor
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    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #31
    Dark view if one's neighbors are a threat and a blessing.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8579

      #32
      Originally posted by togor
      Dark view if one's neighbors are a threat and a blessing.
      Some are, some aren't
      Sam

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      • Fred Pillot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 448

        #33
        I've been dry canning beans, rice, dehydrated vegatables.
        Fred Pillot
        Captain
        San Jose Zouaves
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        • S.A. Boggs
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 8579

          #34
          What is going to be interesting are how some here "are going to get along" with this virus. Wait till the virus hits those here who live in cities/towns and things start to slow down and change.
          Sam

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #35
            Rural life is supported by supply chains that pass through commercial areas. Stocking up is a good idea but it always presupposes that somewhere nearby there isn't a disruption going on. Storm damaged areas recover because help flows in from undamaged regions.

            In terms of government preparedness, I would say that Trump is not quite in sync with the base on this one. They're looking ahead to what they might be dealing with (based on what the CDC is saying) and he's blasting the press for writing stories based on what the CDC is saying. Were I to guess I would say that his #1 fear is that this disease might scramble his battle plan for winning re-election, as opposed to say the toll it might take on the country in deaths or hardship. Hmmmm.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11297

              #36
              virus' tend to be a cold weather thing,

              with much of the nation warming up by the end of the next month, we may not have much of an issue,

              and our health care and awareness (as well as sanitation) is generally among the best in the world.

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              • bruce
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3759

                #37
                So ... Wohan Flu has sickened lots of people ... and less than 3,000 are dead. It is racing like wildfire through the US! There are almost 20 people infected. Body bags are waiting in morgues. Crematoriums are ready. Plain old influenza kills thousands of people in the US every year ... and no one pays it a lick of attention. Same throughout the world. But, this WF stuff ... why its 1917 all over again! This stuff will be about like the last public health terror that struck ... Swine Flu, Bird Flu, SARS, MSRA, Anthrax, Cell Phones. It will sell a lot of print and get a lot of eyeballs on websites ... far more than people than it will actually infect much less kill. Sincerely. bruce.
                " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                • Roadkingtrax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7835

                  #38
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Rural life is supported by supply chains that pass through commercial areas. Stocking up is a good idea but it always presupposes that somewhere nearby there isn't a disruption going on. Storm damaged areas recover because help flows in from undamaged regions.

                  In terms of government preparedness, I would say that Trump is not quite in sync with the base on this one. They're looking ahead to what they might be dealing with (based on what the CDC is saying) and he's blasting the press for writing stories based on what the CDC is saying. Were I to guess I would say that his #1 fear is that this disease might scramble his battle plan for winning re-election, as opposed to say the toll it might take on the country in deaths or hardship. Hmmmm.
                  The fall guy is in place: Pence
                  "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #39
                    Originally posted by bruce
                    So ... Wohan Flu has sickened lots of people ... and less than 3,000 are dead. It is racing like wildfire through the US! There are almost 20 people infected. Body bags are waiting in morgues. Crematoriums are ready. Plain old influenza kills thousands of people in the US every year ... and no one pays it a lick of attention. Same throughout the world. But, this WF stuff ... why its 1917 all over again! This stuff will be about like the last public health terror that struck ... Swine Flu, Bird Flu, SARS, MSRA, Anthrax, Cell Phones. It will sell a lot of print and get a lot of eyeballs on websites ... far more than people than it will actually infect much less kill. Sincerely. bruce.
                    China shut down a province to encircle the virus. Now they're in the same boat as everyone else, watching untraced infection spread from the less supervised corners of the globe. Eventually they'll have to restart their economy.

                    As for who it does or doesn't kill, I have to say that Boggs takes a more honest view compared to your glib expression.

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                    • togor
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #40
                      CDC off to a clumsy start. First a bunch of defective test kits, then the doctors in CA want to test a guy but the Feds, who supervise the tests, say "no" because he doesn't fit their criteria. Hopefully the docs kept him isolated as best they could while playing their correct hunch.

                      Markets weren't to happy about that.

                      I thought they debugged pandemic response in an episode of *The Apprentice". Maybe not.

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #41
                        Originally posted by togor
                        China shut down a province to encircle the virus. Now they're in the same boat as everyone else, watching untraced infection spread from the less supervised corners of the globe. Eventually they'll have to restart their economy.

                        As for who it does or doesn't kill, I have to say that Boggs takes a more honest view compared to your glib expression.
                        Japan has shut down their schools until April.

                        Flu deaths are at 0.05% this season, COVID-19 is at 2.3%.
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11297

                          #42
                          Originally posted by togor
                          CDC off to a clumsy start. First a bunch of defective test kits, then the doctors in CA want to test a guy but the Feds, who supervise the tests, say "no" because he doesn't fit their criteria. Hopefully the docs kept him isolated as best they could while playing their correct hunch.

                          Markets weren't to happy about that.

                          I thought they debugged pandemic response in an episode of *The Apprentice". Maybe not.


                          you keep dragging trump into this but don't seem to concerned that the info we get out of China is suspect,

                          or did I miss that?

                          now that it has hit some of the 1st world areas, that while congested have better hospital and medical care, we can see just how bad this may be,

                          not to mention the sanitation, China is not known for that, while most of the Euro nations are

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #43
                            So what is a reasonable expectation to have for the Federal Government if you don't like mine?

                            Trump's the guy who gutted the ranks and inserts underqualified-but-loyal acting directors everywhere, with job #1 to be not make the boss look bad. If you want to ignore that aspect of his administration, I don't.

                            He didn't create this, but a lot of what happens on these shores, especially now, when it's early, depends on decisions coming out of the White House.

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #44
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              you keep dragging trump into this but don't seem to concerned that the info we get out of China is suspect,

                              or did I miss that?

                              now that it has hit some of the 1st world areas, that while congested have better hospital and medical care, we can see just how bad this may be,

                              not to mention the sanitation, China is not known for that, while most of the Euro nations are
                              We seem to have competent people in charge at the CDC.

                              Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald has been the Director of the CDC since July of '17, and before that was the commissioner of the Georgia Department of Public Health (DPH) and state health officer for the previous six years. Dr. Anne Schuchat, who was the acting CDC director and acting ATSDR administrator since January of '17 returned to her role as CDC’s principal deputy director. Looks like an experienced and tested team to me.

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