Four simple questions ....

[rayg]

Kudlow is the guy who consistently scores 10% on True/False tests.

And what about you!...four posts you said I made and that I never did make .Does that count...Hummm.

[togor]

Which four are those? Sometimes people misread posts. A hazard of the medium.

[rayg]

I told/challenged you on them each time it happened...you would say I said something or that I had agreed with you when I never did either.
You should remember as I challenged you on it each time...You memory can't be that bad..

[bruce]

I'm asking Bruce, an ordained minister (i.e. representative of God), why he consistently refers to Obama as a squatter, a demeaning word which you would agree indicates that his animosity towards Obama is personal, not related to policy. I'm wondering how Bruce would explain that usage to his flock from the pulpit, and if he's willing to offer a bit of that explanation here. If it was a one-off reference I'd let it go, but I ask since it's a repeated use, and such a coarse sentiment seems in stark contrast to his day job, which in theory is to move people towards the Light of Christ.

So what's the deal, Bruce? A squatter is one who occupies a house/land to which he has no claim. Stated as simply as possible, Obama has not ever provided answers to any of the legitimate questions asked regarding his identity, political positions, etc. during college, etc. The schools he attended all cooperated with hushing up any critical review of his writings, etc. He has not ever offered any explanation of his past. There is not any left-wing liberal in either a political or news media position who would allow such a silence to stand unchallenged. For that reason, I consider Obama to be a squatter, one with no legitimate claim.

Day by day I routinely encounter fellow pastors who are in some cases so left-wing that they don't have a right arm. Others are less radical, but they are very much anti-Blue ... i.e., anti- Republican, Anti-Conservative, Anti-Trump ... anti anything and anyone who does not support their left-wing liberal social and political agenda. They consider Trump not to be a legitimate president b/c they failed to generate sufficient nation-wide support to win in the Electoral College. For their outrage and hatred, they make no apology. They consider that they are completely in the right. For my part, I consider that the distain I express for Obama is justified. Perhaps in the light of 11/16, I should use the phrase, "deplorable one." Sincerely. bruce.

[togor]

I told/challenged you on them each time it happened...you would say I said something or that I had agreed with you when I never did either.
You should remember as I challenged you on it each time...You memory can't be that bad..

As long as your memories are fuzzy, why not make it 6 times, or 23?

[lyman]

As long as your memories are fuzzy, why not make it 6 times, or 23?

lets not be insulting,,,,

[togor]

Bruce was Obama fairly on the ballot and elected to office or not? His legitmacy lies there. Not in some personal standard you erect, based on a whispering campaign, to justify your use of such a demeaning term. Tell me, are there any black parishioners in your flock? Have you explained your use of the term to them? Does it pass muster with them or do they see it all too clearly for what it is?

As for Trump, it sounds to me like those Trump-doubting pastors you complain about have a shred of conscience. A hopeful sign that Evangelical Christianity may someday redeem itself in the eyes of the nation as a genuine moral force, not just another special interest group in search of policy wins. Before that day however, the long desert journey awaits you.

Also: Obama would never tweet so disgracefully with a TV ratings boast while hundreds of Americans are dying every day. That people such as yourself can gaze on someone so obviously bereft of empathy and somehow imagine this is God's Chosen Vehicle to guide the nation is a genuine mystery to me.

[togor]

lets not be insulting,,,,

It's not meant as an insult. Ray and I get along okay, even if we disagree. But he says 4 times, which is pretty specific, but can't be bothered to list the details. So maybe it isn't 4. Show me my error and I'll own it, but show it. That's fair.

[S.A. Boggs]

lets not be insulting,,,,

"Children say the darnedest things!"
Sam

[lyman]

It's not meant as an insult. Ray and I get along okay, even if we disagree. But he says 4 times, which is pretty specific, but can't be bothered to list the details. So maybe it isn't 4. Show me my error and I'll own it, but show it. That's fair.

remember this is a public forum,


and not directed only at you

[rayg]

As long as your memories are fuzzy, why not make it 6 times, or 23?

??? not my memories that are fuzzy! but your's apparently are..I challenged you each time it happened in your posts. You should remember I did, either that or apparently you don't want to.. or your memory is failing...

[togor]

I do not see your dispute. If you want to say I misrepresented you 4 times, then that may be your count. This medium is limited. Lyman has inferred all kinds of positions onto me about gun control that he knows in his heart I must hold even if I have never said anything of the sort.

I do try to go by what people post here, but again, a limited medium.

I do remember one case where you told me "good post" but then actual administration policy went in another way, and it appeared to me you changed your position. Maybe you didn't. Again, limits of the medium.

[rayg]

Togor, forget it!... if you don't remember the times, it's just a dead issue...

[togor]

Happy Easter, Ray.

Stay safe and healthy!

[lyman]

I do not see your dispute. If you want to say I misrepresented you 4 times, then that may be your count. This medium is limited. Lyman has inferred all kinds of positions onto me about gun control that he knows in his heart I must hold even if I have never said anything of the sort.

I do try to go by what people post here, but again, a limited medium.

I do remember one case where you told me "good post" but then actual administration policy went in another way, and it appeared to me you changed your position. Maybe you didn't. Again, limits of the medium.

actually, I am not inferring a thing,

your position is well known to all by now,



and then when it is brought up, you cry foul , that you did not,,

stop playing the victim and move on,